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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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Im holding off on my motor build until the summer so i figured id switch my cam out to squeeze evey bit of HP out of my motor.Im running a Torquer v2 232/234 595"/.598" on a 113lsa right now and with the trickflow heads she put down 430whp unlocked through a stock maf and a PT4000.Now im thinking about pulling the stick out and upgrading to a Vindicator 240/244 .605/.596 on a 112 LSA being that it works so well with these heads,the same time i plan on adding a pulley and cutout.Now,will it be worth it to change cams,i know there is a good difference between the two and adding the pulley and cutout at the same time should help...What do you guys think,she pulls good now but i want more...

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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:04 PM
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why not a MS4??? just curious

or just spray the **** out of it... ur swapping motors anyways
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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why not a MS4??? just curious

or just spray the **** out of it... ur swapping motors anyways

I would just spray it but my PT4000 isnt good with nitrous and i dont feel like swapping out converters again.I would definitly look into the MS4 but i havent seen any results with the ms4 and TFS heads,but i definitl want a BIGGER cam
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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i think you might miss the low end from the V2, especially if youre gonna add a cutout
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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I would just spray it but my PT4000 isnt good with nitrous and i dont feel like swapping out converters again.I would definitly look into the MS4 but i havent seen any results with the ms4 and TFS heads,but i definitl want a BIGGER cam

if u were running a 3500 id hit it with some nitrous but ya i agree 4000 isnt good with nitrous....
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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It'll be very nice with a 4K stall
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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if you are building a motor hold off. no point in all that work for a few months. plus then having to have it retuned. also are your heads milled? because if they are that cam may not fit without flycutting so then u will need to pull the heads also.
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if you are building a motor hold off. no point in all that work for a few months. plus then having to have it retuned. also are your heads milled? because if they are that cam may not fit without flycutting so then u will need to pull the heads also.
I figured you would chime in..


Yea heads are milled to 61cc and the cam will go without flycutting,ive already checked that out.It will probly be around august when i get the shortblock so its gonna be awhile.I just want more power and i cant spray...
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the only way to more top end power with out fi or spray would be a bigger cam
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Old Dec 22, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RedDemonLsX
I figured you would chime in..


Yea heads are milled to 61cc and the cam will go without flycutting,ive already checked that out.It will probly be around august when i get the shortblock so its gonna be awhile.I just want more power and i cant spray...
just a lot of money and effort for a motor u will be pulling soon. if u werent going to id say go for it and hope for the best being an auto and all. its less work to swap converters then a cam.....maybe do that and spray the bitch. its always nice to have the spray anyways-even on the new motor
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I am running the the Vindicator 240/244 .605/.596 on a 112 LSA with stock 243's and stock short block. and it move's. But i am going to be getting some tfs 215 milled to 59cc and fly cutting to get some tq out of my setup. i hope to get some 10sec time slips out of it cam only. my mph is there but my 60 sucks. oh and i am a m6 (look in sig)
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i'm with the leaving it alone.. have you ran this combo at the strip yet?
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I'm running a torqer 2 as well, but no matter how much I think about it, I can't justify the work required, $ to buy new cam (I constantly am debating getting a Pat G custom grind to better match my heads) and tune ($700) for only 10-15hp, maybe more. I'd rather add a new suspension piece that will make up for that lack of hp in my 60ft times. But that's just me, I do agree w/ you that the temptation is out there more than anything.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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i would say leave it.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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Like whats already been said the most you will prob gain is 10-15hp. Its up to you if thats worth it or not.
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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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Why cant you spray a 4000 stalll? I have seen many 4000 stalls sprayed and loved it.

If it bothers you to spray that stall, just jet down to a 50 shot, its still more then the cam is going to give you and you will already have the kit for the new motor.
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