Head/Cam cars????
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Re: Head/Cam cars???? My car dyno'd at another speed shop in CT with following mods 2000 Firehawk : SLP Air lid,Holley Power Shot, GMS MAS. MBA Shift ****. Corsa Exhaust SLP LTs,Y-pipe/cats.. Dyno # 330 RWHP 338 RWTQ
My car dyno’d at ESP one month later with the same mods: 328 RWHP and 336 RWTQ
I trust their DYNO.
My car dyno’d at ESP one month later with the same mods: 328 RWHP and 336 RWTQ
I trust their DYNO.
Re: Head/Cam cars????
Look at my numbers ESP heads and cam 3740 race weight
ESP keep up the good work.Envy is something a lot of doubters are going to have get a grip on, facts are facts, and noyzee & The chef are right.
I actually dynoed lower at ESP than I did @ NEDT before. I know for a fact that these guy are not lieing to me,specially since they are the first to inconvenience themselves to help there customers, and the last ones to admit that they were inconvenienced simply because they love the sport, and are loyal to their patrons, whom by the way appreciate them for it.
ESP keep up the good work.Envy is something a lot of doubters are going to have get a grip on, facts are facts, and noyzee & The chef are right.
I actually dynoed lower at ESP than I did @ NEDT before. I know for a fact that these guy are not lieing to me,specially since they are the first to inconvenience themselves to help there customers, and the last ones to admit that they were inconvenienced simply because they love the sport, and are loyal to their patrons, whom by the way appreciate them for it.
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Re: Head/Cam cars???? I guess that I just took it the wrong way, only because the way e-mails are worded when it comes to the mention of ESP. If I took it personal, I apologiize. It's just that I want it to be clear, these guys are real good people and know their stuff.
Re: Head/Cam cars????
I guess that I just took it the wrong way, only because the way e-mails are worded when it comes to the mention of ESP. If I took it personal, I apologiize. It's just that I want it to be clear, these guys are real good people and know their stuff.
Re: Head/Cam cars???? the bottom line is we all have seen cars go fast at the track and say wow then find out he has less power than others and wonder why this guy is so much faster
there are SEVERAL factors to figure in when trying to compare a dyno # and track results
alot of it IMO is people all push their car to certain limits that they set and feel comfortabe with then there is that guy that goes out there and tries to kill it every run with out regard to breaking things and he might go faster with less power
and alot of people just dont have the seat time to get good and consistant with their cars
anyways im done with this.....
have fun at the track this weekend
as i got to go to my sisters wedding
there are SEVERAL factors to figure in when trying to compare a dyno # and track results
alot of it IMO is people all push their car to certain limits that they set and feel comfortabe with then there is that guy that goes out there and tries to kill it every run with out regard to breaking things and he might go faster with less power
and alot of people just dont have the seat time to get good and consistant with their cars
anyways im done with this.....
have fun at the track this weekend
as i got to go to my sisters wedding
Re: Head/Cam cars???? B-man, it is good to see you in on this and I appreciate your input.I'm not saying the dyno is different at all.It's a tuning/computer relearning problem..B-man, have you redyno'd your car at ESP since the Edit tune?I would like to know those #'s on the first pull.There is a good chance you will be down hp that will have to be tuned back in.
I ESP for going out of there way to help the customers.I would never go out of my way ,stay late,or work on my day off(birthday)to make a customer happy.
I
ESP for going out of there way to help the customers.I would never go out of my way ,stay late,or work on my day off(birthday)to make a customer happy. Re: Head/Cam cars????
B-man, it is good to see you in on this and I appreciate your input.I'm not saying the dyno is different at all.It's a tuning/computer relearning problem..B-man, have you redyno'd your car at ESP since the Edit tune?I would like to know those #'s on the first pull.There is a good chance you will be down hp that will have to be tuned back in.
I ESP for going out of there way to help the customers.I would never go out of my way ,stay late,or work on my day off(birthday)to make a customer happy.
I
ESP for going out of there way to help the customers.I would never go out of my way ,stay late,or work on my day off(birthday)to make a customer happy. 
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Re: Head/Cam cars???? Well the car below only dynos 365hp.. and runs a good # so ?? tuned and built only by myself and some edit comparisons with slowhawk(when I taught him everything he knows :p
and full 100% weight plus cage etc..
and full 100% weight plus cage etc..
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Re: Head/Cam cars????
Look at my numbers ESP heads and cam 3740 race weight
ESP keep up the good work.Envy is something a lot of doubters are going to have get a grip on, facts are facts, and noyzee & The chef are right.
I actually dynoed lower at ESP than I did @ NEDT before. I know for a fact that these guy are not lieing to me,specially since they are the first to inconvenience themselves to help there customers, and the last ones to admit that they were inconvenienced simply because they love the sport, and are loyal to their patrons, whom by the way appreciate them for it.
ESP keep up the good work.Envy is something a lot of doubters are going to have get a grip on, facts are facts, and noyzee & The chef are right.
I actually dynoed lower at ESP than I did @ NEDT before. I know for a fact that these guy are not lieing to me,specially since they are the first to inconvenience themselves to help there customers, and the last ones to admit that they were inconvenienced simply because they love the sport, and are loyal to their patrons, whom by the way appreciate them for it.
Hey B-Man, 11's this Sat!!!! Show em up!
Re: Head/Cam cars????
Look at my numbers ESP heads and cam 3740 race weight
ESP keep up the good work.Envy is something a lot of doubters are going to have get a grip on, facts are facts, and noyzee & The chef are right.
I actually dynoed lower at ESP than I did @ NEDT before. I know for a fact that these guy are not lieing to me,specially since they are the first to inconvenience themselves to help there customers, and the last ones to admit that they were inconvenienced simply because they love the sport, and are loyal to their patrons, whom by the way appreciate them for it.
ESP keep up the good work.Envy is something a lot of doubters are going to have get a grip on, facts are facts, and noyzee & The chef are right.
I actually dynoed lower at ESP than I did @ NEDT before. I know for a fact that these guy are not lieing to me,specially since they are the first to inconvenience themselves to help there customers, and the last ones to admit that they were inconvenienced simply because they love the sport, and are loyal to their patrons, whom by the way appreciate them for it.
Hey B-Man, 11's this Sat!!!! Show em up!
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Re: Head/Cam cars???? Gees I just found this thread
The Chef can you find out when I emailed Ken about my low dyno number and asked him about doing a ESP cam in my car he never replied to me. I was planning on bringing the car back over there to have it checked out but he never replied to me so I figured he was pissed off or something.
And for the record SLOWHAWK never touched my tuning nor has anyone. Something is wrong with the car. I add a shortbelt and a cutout and have more than enough break in miles and I lose 10 HP on the dyno. I wish someone had a better idea then change the cam but I guess thats the only thing that is in question. If the so called cam is wrong, ARE will hear from me.
Marco
The Chef can you find out when I emailed Ken about my low dyno number and asked him about doing a ESP cam in my car he never replied to me. I was planning on bringing the car back over there to have it checked out but he never replied to me so I figured he was pissed off or something.
And for the record SLOWHAWK never touched my tuning nor has anyone. Something is wrong with the car. I add a shortbelt and a cutout and have more than enough break in miles and I lose 10 HP on the dyno. I wish someone had a better idea then change the cam but I guess thats the only thing that is in question. If the so called cam is wrong, ARE will hear from me.
Marco
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From: East Side Performance! mASShole
Re: Head/Cam cars????
Gees I just found this thread
The Chef can you find out when I emailed Ken about my low dyno number and asked him about doing a ESP cam in my car he never replied to me. I was planning on bringing the car back over there to have it checked out but he never replied to me so I figured he was pissed off or something.
And for the record SLOWHAWK never touched my tuning nor has anyone. Something is wrong with the car. I add a shortbelt and a cutout and have more than enough break in miles and I lose 10 HP on the dyno. I wish someone had a better idea then change the cam but I guess thats the only thing that is in question. If the so called cam is wrong, ARE will hear from me.
Marco
The Chef can you find out when I emailed Ken about my low dyno number and asked him about doing a ESP cam in my car he never replied to me. I was planning on bringing the car back over there to have it checked out but he never replied to me so I figured he was pissed off or something.
And for the record SLOWHAWK never touched my tuning nor has anyone. Something is wrong with the car. I add a shortbelt and a cutout and have more than enough break in miles and I lose 10 HP on the dyno. I wish someone had a better idea then change the cam but I guess thats the only thing that is in question. If the so called cam is wrong, ARE will hear from me.
Marco
Anyway, Im sure ESP would do what they have to to get your car right.
Call them
up Re: Head/Cam cars???? well Marco we all think the SLP headers are holding the car back especially with a cam that big, i dont remember if you have a ASP pulley or not but if not that will also help, next time you come up let me know in advance and i will take one my ESP ported TB off my car and we can see how your car reacts
either way lets first check the car now that the motor has some miles and let kevin check the tune and go from there....as for the email Ken is running around and its always better to call him at the shop, 1-203-269-1539
either way lets first check the car now that the motor has some miles and let kevin check the tune and go from there....as for the email Ken is running around and its always better to call him at the shop, 1-203-269-1539
Re: Head/Cam cars????
well Marco we all think the SLP headers are holding the car back especially with a cam that big, i dont remember if you have a ASP pulley or not but if not that will also help, next time you come up let me know in advance and i will take one my ESP ported TB off my car and we can see how your car reacts
either way lets first check the car now that the motor has some miles and let kevin check the tune and go from there....as for the email Ken is running around and its always better to call him at the shop, 1-203-269-1539
either way lets first check the car now that the motor has some miles and let kevin check the tune and go from there....as for the email Ken is running around and its always better to call him at the shop, 1-203-269-1539
Re: Head/Cam cars???? I agree that there is a bigger problem than a Cam change.Don't think it's the Headers holding back either(Tracer runs them with good results)A leakdown/compression check could shed some light on this.
Re: Head/Cam cars???? I agree with you's i dont think the headers are holding me back 50 HP gotta be something. I wish I was rich and could swap cams 
Gonna be a while before that
Gonna be a while before that Re: Head/Cam cars???? well boyz we have tested all of the headers except for QTP and have seen gains over SLPs especially on the bigger cam cars
50hp i never said that, also marco you need a few more bolts ons most of the cars up in that 430hp range your looking for have all of the bolt onswhich help also still not saying 50hp but a gain
anyways have fun at the track this weekend guys i wish i could go but my sisters wedding i just cant skip
have fun hope to hear new best E.Ts from everyone
50hp i never said that, also marco you need a few more bolts ons most of the cars up in that 430hp range your looking for have all of the bolt onswhich help also still not saying 50hp but a gain
anyways have fun at the track this weekend guys i wish i could go but my sisters wedding i just cant skip
have fun hope to hear new best E.Ts from everyone
Re: Head/Cam cars????
well boyz we have tested all of the headers except for QTP and have seen gains over SLPs especially on the bigger cam cars
50hp i never said that, also marco you need a few more bolts ons most of the cars up in that 430hp range your looking for have all of the bolt onswhich help also still not saying 50hp but a gain
anyways have fun at the track this weekend guys i wish i could go but my sisters wedding i just cant skip
have fun hope to hear new best E.Ts from everyone
50hp i never said that, also marco you need a few more bolts ons most of the cars up in that 430hp range your looking for have all of the bolt onswhich help also still not saying 50hp but a gain
anyways have fun at the track this weekend guys i wish i could go but my sisters wedding i just cant skip
have fun hope to hear new best E.Ts from everyone
