Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

new cam suggestions..

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 3, 2009 | 06:53 PM
  #1  
4.6what's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: Roanoke Rapids, NC
Default new cam suggestions..

hey guys i have an 00 TA with the mods in sig. i plan on gettin a set of headers before i buy a cam. my car is a weekend playtoy that will see a couple of track passses a year. i want a cam that has sick idle.. even if that means sacrificing a little power. i'm not putting heads on it right now. with less than 60k miles i dont want to tear into it that much yet. so which cam would be the best for my setup? i plan on getting a dyno tune immediately after the install.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2009 | 07:48 PM
  #2  
00nbmz28's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
From: Kansas City, MO
Default

ms4! or something big if you dont drive it everyday and want some good power
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2009 | 08:00 PM
  #3  
NeedaV8foundation's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 861
Likes: 0
From: Naperville, IL
Default

give mikey from straightline performance a call, he just got me setup with a custom grind 238/242 at .600/.609 @112 and that is somewhat for a daily. take a look at this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFm32odXCGw
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 05:35 PM
  #4  
4.6what's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: Roanoke Rapids, NC
Default

i saw that video the other day while i was just browsing lol! that thing sounds sick. you do heads too or cam only?
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 05:41 PM
  #5  
lemons12's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (71)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 11,088
Likes: 2
From: Winchester, TN
Default

Originally Posted by 4.6what
hey guys i have an 00 TA with the mods in sig. i plan on gettin a set of headers before i buy a cam. my car is a weekend playtoy that will see a couple of track passses a year. i want a cam that has sick idle.. even if that means sacrificing a little power. i'm not putting heads on it right now. with less than 60k miles i dont want to tear into it that much yet. so which cam would be the best for my setup? i plan on getting a dyno tune immediately after the install.
need more info for what you are looking for..

you need a rear end first, period.

if you do go with an ms4 you will need pushrods of course dual springs ported oil pump ls2 timing chain and that is the minimum along with a tune..

you would benefit a lot from an ls6 intake and a ton with a ported 9090 or regular 9090..

i think you need to think about what you want some more, and what it will be used for.. where you want power... how.. how much.. when.. what kinda heads you will be going with.. do you roll race or dig race.. 1/8 or 1/4... future power adders..
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 08:36 PM
  #6  
4.6what's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: Roanoke Rapids, NC
Default

Originally Posted by lemons12
need more info for what you are looking for..

you need a rear end first, period.

if you do go with an ms4 you will need pushrods of course dual springs ported oil pump ls2 timing chain and that is the minimum along with a tune..

you would benefit a lot from an ls6 intake and a ton with a ported 9090 or regular 9090..

i think you need to think about what you want some more, and what it will be used for.. where you want power... how.. how much.. when.. what kinda heads you will be going with.. do you roll race or dig race.. 1/8 or 1/4... future power adders..
i'm aware of the rearend requirements. i'm just waiting for the mushroom cloud from the rearend before i get a new one. as far as the pushrods, springs, timing chain, oil pump are concerned i was just assuming that was a given when doing a cam swap correctly and had planned on it already.

my car will definitely see way more street time than track time. i would like to make power to about 6500 rpms. i plan on keeping the stock heads and intake for now. i roll race and dig race.. no power adders in the near future. so basically i guess what i want is a good all around street cam with a rough idle.
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 08:44 PM
  #7  
lemons12's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (71)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 11,088
Likes: 2
From: Winchester, TN
Default

Originally Posted by 4.6what
i'm aware of the rearend requirements. i'm just waiting for the mushroom cloud from the rearend before i get a new one. as far as the pushrods, springs, timing chain, oil pump are concerned i was just assuming that was a given when doing a cam swap correctly and had planned on it already.

my car will definitely see way more street time than track time. i would like to make power to about 6500 rpms. i plan on keeping the stock heads and intake for now. i roll race and dig race.. no power adders in the near future. so basically i guess what i want is a good all around street cam with a rough idle.
with that said.. i vote ms3 with an ls6 intake ported TB cutout lid LT's tune.. car will scream for a street car..

would be WELL worth the LITTLE bit of extra money spent..
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 08:47 PM
  #8  
04gtoBMXracer's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 783
Likes: 0
From: Albuquerque nm
Default

thunder racing t-rex or track cam
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-3

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-7

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
story-9

10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 08:55 PM
  #9  
HaulinHawk's Avatar
11 Second Club
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 579
Likes: 0
From: tampa fla
Default

G5x3 or x4!!!!Money baby!!!
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:04 PM
  #10  
4.6what's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: Roanoke Rapids, NC
Default

any audio clips of the ms3?
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:23 PM
  #11  
lemons12's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (71)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 11,088
Likes: 2
From: Winchester, TN
Default

not ms3.. but ms4..

this is my car on a cold start.. it was 30 degrees outside and i had just started my car... she was idling at about 1200rpms.. when she is warms she drops down the 950 and idles MUCH harder..

http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/g...t=SD531115.flv

the ms3 and ms4 are going to sound VERY close..

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...+cam+idle&aq=f
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:24 PM
  #12  
lemons12's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (71)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 11,088
Likes: 2
From: Winchester, TN
Default

i would not go with an ms4 or trex because they are so radical cams.. very hard on valve train.. ms3 is almost as big but not quite there.. you will be very happy with it and a good tune..

also, ms4 and trex will cut down on your head options in the future unless you flycut..
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 10:25 PM
  #13  
2002 SS HUGG's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 224
Likes: 1
From: Westminster, Md
Default

Honestly, getting a Torquer V.2 on a 112 Lsa sounds pretty nasty, itself. However, the Torguer 2 peaks out around 6500 rpms...so that'd be closer to your plans. imo....
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 10:39 PM
  #14  
4.6what's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: Roanoke Rapids, NC
Default

yeah i dont want too radical lol.. i think the ms3 might do the trick.. i think that one peaks at 6800. are bigger injectors or better fuel pump required for a cam upgrade?
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 03:27 PM
  #15  
lemons12's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (71)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 11,088
Likes: 2
From: Winchester, TN
Default

Originally Posted by 4.6what
yeah i dont want too radical lol.. i think the ms3 might do the trick.. i think that one peaks at 6800. are bigger injectors or better fuel pump required for a cam upgrade?
some setups yes, most no...

you should be fine on stock injectors and pump N/A.. when you start throwing spray to it though i would suggest upgrading..
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 08:11 PM
  #16  
4.6what's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: Roanoke Rapids, NC
Default

i may be able to get a set of ls6 heads for pretty cheap. would they be worth the extra effort when i have it all torn down? if i do put those on i'll be getting a new intake as well.
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 10:52 PM
  #17  
NeedaV8foundation's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 861
Likes: 0
From: Naperville, IL
Default

Originally Posted by 4.6what
i saw that video the other day while i was just browsing lol! that thing sounds sick. you do heads too or cam only?
not my vid, just another straightline vid....

my setup will be cam only.
Reply
Old Mar 5, 2009 | 11:23 PM
  #18  
04gtoBMXracer's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 783
Likes: 0
From: Albuquerque nm
Default

I just put a torquer 2 on a 112 lsa in my cousins.01 ws6, with an open y that car sounds like a beast! He has loudmouth 2 exhaust **** still sounds wild.
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 12:33 AM
  #19  
lemons12's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (71)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 11,088
Likes: 2
From: Winchester, TN
Default

Originally Posted by 4.6what
i may be able to get a set of ls6 heads for pretty cheap. would they be worth the extra effort when i have it all torn down? if i do put those on i'll be getting a new intake as well.
on a set of untouched (stock) ls6 heads you will pick up around 20rwhp (well worth it IMO).. with a set of ported stg1s you will pick up around 40 rwhp (again well worth it)..

i would do it without a doubt.. especially the intake..
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:17 AM.

story-0
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-3
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-4
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-5
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

Slideshow: The 7.0-liter LS7 was designed for absolute cutting-edge performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-07 18:36:00


VIEW MORE