Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

shortblock assembly

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 30, 2009 | 07:05 PM
  #1  
briancox's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Default shortblock assembly

i have a ls1 that i tore apart and but forged pistons and new rods and bearings. I can put it together myself but i was going to take it to a speed shop in st.louis to have them do it so they can balance and degree the cam. my question is does it need to be balanced and degreed i know alot of ppl that just put it together there self.
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2009 | 09:27 PM
  #2  
conan's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,492
Likes: 6
From: Back in the Burg
Default

I would want it ballanced and degreed. Also have them line hone the main bearins and cylinders.
Reply
Old Mar 31, 2009 | 06:11 PM
  #3  
briancox's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Default

they want like 250 for assembly and 250 to degree and balance it could i assemble it and them take it up there to have them do the rest
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2009 | 09:33 AM
  #4  
briancox's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Default

i would rather just assemble it then have them do the balancing and degree if thats possible
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2009 | 09:36 AM
  #5  
Beau@SDPC's Avatar
LS1Tech Sponsor
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,262
Likes: 2
From: Lubbock, TX
Default

you cannot balance a rotating assy inside the engine. The machine shop will need the pistons, rods, bolts, pin, locks, bearings, rings and crank. Then they balance, then you can put it in.
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2009 | 09:41 AM
  #6  
bjamick's Avatar
TECH Veteran
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,218
Likes: 3
From: Birmingham AL.
Default

Originally Posted by John@Scoggin
you cannot balance a rotating assy inside the engine. The machine shop will need the pistons, rods, bolts, pin, locks, bearings, rings and crank. Then they balance, then you can put it in.
LOL, ya take your whole rotating assembly to the machine shop. This includes crank, pistons, rods, flywheel, etc. Everything included in the bottom end. Once its balanced it will be written on top of each piston which cylinder it goes in. Its not hard to assemble the engine. Just keep everything really clean and lube everything well.
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2009 | 09:42 AM
  #7  
Eskimo's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 512
Likes: 0
From: Central PA
Default

I think you're tossing around terminology you don't fully understand. You said "balance and degree the cam" - the cam doesn't get balanced.

IMO, bring them all the parts, let them clean up the engine, balance the rotating assembly, install everything, and degree the cam for you.
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2009 | 09:47 AM
  #8  
briancox's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Default

i know the cam dont get balanced i was saying i want my motor balanced and degree the cam my bad if i didnt come out correctly.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 1, 2009 | 09:52 AM
  #9  
briancox's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Eskimo
IMO, bring them all the parts, let them clean up the engine, balance the rotating assembly, install everything, and degree the cam for you.
yeah thats prooly what i will do so i dont have to deal with it and i know its all done 100% correctly
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2009 | 10:07 AM
  #10  
Notmyvette's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 259
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by bjamick
LOL, ya take your whole rotating assembly to the machine shop. This includes crank, pistons, rods, flywheel, etc. Everything included in the bottom end. Once its balanced it will be written on top of each piston which cylinder it goes in. Its not hard to assemble the engine. Just keep everything really clean and lube everything well.
Don't they need the balancer too?

+1 for keeping everything lubed and CLEAN
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2009 | 11:26 AM
  #11  
bjamick's Avatar
TECH Veteran
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 4,218
Likes: 3
From: Birmingham AL.
Default

Nope the balancer was not needed for mine to be balanced.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:19 PM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 14:55:56


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE