Where would you go for a 427 package
Allan Futral goes above and beyond ANY shop I have dealt with when it comes to making the customer happy. I have dealt with halfassed performance shops for years and Im glad I FINALLY found one who stands behind their work and gives you what they promised. Ill be building a stroker motor soon and Ill be sticking with FMS. My lil 346 does quite well for itself 
BTW, LPE does great work, but for the price, you are lacking ALOT of performance capability.
BEST OF LUCK!
My lil 346 is doin' Ok too.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE MY .02 CENTS.
I HAVE BEEN DYNOING CARS FOR JOE FROM JPR FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS,HE PUTS ALOT OF TIME IN HIS R&D TO SEE WHAT WORKS FOR HIS CUSTOMER'S.
HE GIVES EVERYONE 110%--I HAVE SEEN HIM DYNO CUSTOMER'S CARS AND NOT MAKE THE POWER HE QUOTED THEM AND GO BACK THAT DAY AND TEAR THE ENGINES APART---AND DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GIVE THE CUSTOMER WHAT HE PROMISED.THEN COMES BACK THE NEXT DAY TO REDYNO TO MAKE SURE THEY GET WHAT THEY PAY FOR.SOMETIMES WITH PERFORMANCE WORK YOU DON'T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU THOUGHT--NO MATTER HOW MUCH MATH YOU DO WITH HEAD FLOW AND CAM NUMBERS.NO ONE IS PERFECT.THAT'S WHY THE BIG GUYS--WARREN JOHNSON,JOHN FORCE,ETC ARE ALWAYS TEARING THEIR ENGINES DOWN FOR MORE POWER AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE NUMBER 1.I AM JUST TRYING TO SAY JOE PUTS ALOT OF TIME IN HIS CUSTOMER'S CARS TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THE BEST HE CAN DO AND WHAT HE SAID THEY WOULD.HE IS AN HONEST GUY.
I HAVE JUST COMBINED JOE FROM JPR AND BRIAN HERTER FROM PCM'S FOR LESS WITH MY BUSINESS.
NOW JPR AND PCM'S FOR LESS ARE DIVISIONS OF JD'S AUTO REPAIR & PERFORMANCE CENTER.
I WOULD NOT ADD PEOPLE TO MY BUSINESS THAT WERE NOT CREDITABLE OR WERE DOING JOBS FOR PEOPLE THAT WERW NOT 110%.
I HAVE ALWAYS DONE FORD'S IF ANYONE KNOWS WHO I AM--NOW I WILL BE SPECIALIZING IN FORDS AND CHEVY'S.
FROM MINOR PERFORMANCE WORK TO COMPLETE ENGINESAND FULL CUSTOM TUNING ON THE DYNO.
I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW WHAT KIND OF GUY JOE PRINCE IS.
WHEN YOU ARE ON TOP IT SEEMS AS THOUGH EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOCK YOU DOWN SOMETIMES NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY.
YOU ALWAYS WILL GET 110% FROM JD'S AUTO REPAIR & PERFORMANCE CENTER,JPR,AND PCM'S FOR LESS WHEN YOU COME HERE.
THANKS--SORRY SO LONG
JOE DUTKIEWICZ
SHOP OWNER
JD'S AUTO REPAIR & PERFORMANCE CENTER
810 WELSH ROAD
HUNTINGDON VALLEY,PA 19006
215-938-9270
WWW.JDS-HIGH-PERFORMANCE.COM
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I personally like sticking with the "smaller scale" shops like FMS because of that type of customer service.
It seems JPR is right up there as well and its good to see people do actually care about the comsumer and will go out of their way to make us happy
I think Cartek has the quickest NA Corvette running right now (10.40@131+), it's a 427 LS1 full weight street driven C5 with an A4.

Good luck with whoever you choose.
Any input, recomendations or experiance with other tuners would be great.
It's alot of money and you only do it once.

You can e-mail me at JaysonMTI@aol.com and I'll be glad to help you anyway I can.
Jayson - MTI
Nate
1. Installing it yourself? If not, its definitely worth it to have the actual engine builder install it. That way you drop off your car and pick up a car with a 427 in it. One person who cant point the finger at anyone else... If you look at the price of a 427 installed (~12-14,000 if you have other things sorted), the price of a transport to the right shop and back is worth it.
2. There are four options that *I* would feel totally comfortable dropping my car off at. Ive been around this LS1 stuff since being surprised that MTI ran an 11 with a heads/cam LS1. Ive dealt with most vendors many times. I know exactly where I would go for just about any product for the LS1 and I know I would have no problems.
a) MTI. Their Z07 was the first and they have more experience than anyone out there. Great install skills and good pricing. MTI has consistently gone out of their way to make my car better, often at their own expense. I went to MTI for my 387. I'd never be worried about results, power-wise, with an MTI motor.
b) JPR. At some point, you have to wake up and realize that theres alot of extremely happy JPR customers out there. The story is almost universally the same: "Joe didnt stop till my car was perfect.". He is known for better than average pricing as well. Not as much experience with the big motors as others, though.
c) Futral. Futral seems to get more power out of strange custom motors than anyone. For a cost-effective solid roller, installed, Futral and Thunder Racing are the only games in town. Their cars compete extremely well at the strip. I dont know if daily driver convenience and reliability are their "game", but if its na odd, one-off motor, they are the guys.
d) LPE. Kings of the streetable daly driver monster. Always a little down on power from equivilent packages from the above vendors, but they dont make cars that you couldnt have your grandmother drive to the opposite coast. Most LPE customers just upgrade to fancier packages for more power while remaining streetable. Their 427 might not make quite as much power at an MTI Z07 car, but LPE customers usually have enough money ot get the twin turbos on the 427 so that they dont feel small. The right vendor if you are a millionaire, want it perfect, and dont want issues like "the clutch actuation point moved 2 inches when you put that big motor in." While we here on LS1tech all buy alot of single parts from Thunder Racing and try and build our own pile, we all dream of just dropping the car off at LPE.
Hope that helps... Ive never had a regret with my MTI 387. (other than not doing the 427).
chris

Good money managers --->
<--- me I'd stay with a trusted and established builder, like MTI or any of the LS1Tech sponsors, not some bums that don't know crap about LS1's or engines in general.
Last edited by M X S; Oct 30, 2003 at 10:02 PM.





