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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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I just saw your car in your sig and u have a 98 ls1 block. u didnt resleeve the cylinders for the 3.905 bore did u? i'm just wondering how the motor was running if u bored the stock sleeves. all i'm going to be using the motor for is drag racing. ya and i'm going to purchase the 383 rotating assembly from TSP so it comes balanced already.
No it's not the stock block. I was concerned about the limited amount that could be honed out of the 97/98 blocks. W2W had some new 2002/2004 LS6 blocks so I pick one up very cheap...about a third of the price that GMPP wanted. There seems to be conflicting opinions as to the amount that the 97/98 LS1 block can be honed too safely. From what I recall the maximum (from what I was told and read) is .005, thus the 3.905 bore was not safe in my opinion using my 98 block...it's better to be safe than sorry. I also wanted the LS6 block in relationship to the improved oiling over the older LS1 blocks
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast 95 Z28
i don't see why the labor would cost me so much. the only thing i will be paying for is the bore job to 3.905. i'm going to build the engine on my engine stand in my garage.
There's more to machine work than just a hone. It will need to be cleaned and you should have the rings fitted to the bore. In addition, you really need to check the mains, too. Align hone would be recommended, especially if you chose to use main studs. Also, even if TSP balances the assembly, it always good to double check.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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There's more to machine work than just a hone. It will need to be cleaned and you should have the rings fitted to the bore. In addition, you really need to check the mains, too. Align hone would be recommended, especially if you chose to use main studs. Also, even if TSP balances the assembly, it always good to double check.
Agree, not to mention getting all the various bearings/gaskets replaced. Buddy of mine just rebuilt his LS1 to 347 (stock crank) and it cost about 3-4 grand doing all the assembly himself.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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No it's not the stock block. I was concerned about the limited amount that could be honed out of the 97/98 blocks. W2W had some new 2002/2004 LS6 blocks so I pick one up very cheap...about a third of the price that GMPP wanted. There seems to be conflicting opinions as to the amount that the 97/98 LS1 block can be honed too safely. From what I recall the maximum (from what I was told and read) is .005, thus the 3.905 bore was not safe in my opinion using my 98 block...it's better to be safe than sorry. I also wanted the LS6 block in relationship to the improved oiling over the older LS1 blocks
has anyone heard of 98 blocks being bored .007 over and being reliable? all the motor is for, is hauling my *** 1320 ft.

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Does anyone know if i could just buy the wiesco -8cc 3.903 pistons instead? wouldn't these pistons still get 382 c.i. with a 4" stroke? 1 c.i. doesn't matter to me lol. http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=950&catid=38 and how would the PTV clearance be with a MS4 cam and those pistons?

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast 95 Z28
Does anyone know if i could just buy the wiesco -8cc 3.903 pistons instead? wouldn't these pistons still get 382 c.i. with a 4" stroke? 1 c.i. doesn't matter to me lol. http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=950&catid=38 and how would the PTV clearance be with a MS4 cam and those pistons?
That sounds like a plan to me. I would give Wiesco a call and get their advice.If they feel that a 3.903 bore is safe on a 98 LS1 block then go with it. The pistons will have the valve relief already cut into them (-8cc) I'd go with the -2cc for higher compression. No need to split hairs...we'll call it a 383.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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Brian Nutter from Wiseco also posts on here, so you could pm him. Tell him the heads, cam, deckheight, etc. and he could line you up with the pistons for the compression you want. I believe they list their pistons at 0 deck on their site. Most ls pistons are out of the hole. So the deckheight/piston in, our out of the hole makes a big difference. You could still run the -8cc and get 11+ compression out of them. Esp. if running milled heads.
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