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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Ok well i got done swapping motors a few days back and went to pire my car up today... Well it wouldn't start.

after about 10 min of cranking I realized I forgot to hook up all the sensors in the back..

well now it will kind of fire when the throttle is to the floor. but not actually start.

NOW I HAVE ALOT OF GAS IN THE OIL! Did that much gas actually go by the rings!!!!

Now think the reason it wasn't firing after i got the sensors hooked up i think it is flooded!

Now im gonna have to drop out $70 worth of oil with zero run time out of it.

Wanted some opinions on this.
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will only fire when throttle is to floor and will immediately die... any ideas?
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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gas is pouring out of turbo oil return line off the oil pan (its not hooked up yet)
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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You have a leaking injector or injectors!!!
pull the spark plugs out, put out all your cigarettes and remove the plugs, pull the fuel pump relay and crank the car over a few times, I bet you'll have gas shooting out one or more spark plug holes!
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if you just swapped motors I'll bet your injectors are not seated and are jump dumping fuel into the cylinders. Gas is just pouring into the cylinders and leaking past the rings
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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ok ill try that thanks
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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What oil are you using to brake in a new moter that costs $70? Also when I swaped out my injectors I had a puddle of fuel under the car after first start up I loosened up all the rail bolts and had to wiggle and push 2 of my injectors in to the intake more. Puddle stoped.
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well its not a NEW motor its a junkyard pullout.... synthetic 10 30
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BAD_LS1
well its not a NEW motor its a junkyard pullout.... synthetic 10 30
I got ya, when I broke in my new moter I was using $1.50/qt castrol 10w30, so I didn't feel bad dumping that.
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Originally Posted by conan
I got ya, when I broke in my new moter I was using $1.50/qt castrol 10w30, so I didn't feel bad dumping that.
Im gonna buy some really cheap oi tomorrow and put it in lol.



I pulled the the fuel pump relay fuse and the darn car started after a few cranks and kept running for about 5 minutes, lol. shouldn't it have ran out of gas?

Now it wont start again! gonna have to make sure they are all seated good.

Think it might be the injectors... I just put on some used siemens deka 60# injectors (yes i tuned for them).... Not sure what else it could be!
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When this happened to me before on a different car it was a bad injector oring. I opened the oil filler cap and could get high off the gas fumes. The oil had the viscosity of water.
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well the car starts and runs now but it backfires and shoots flames and gas from the manifolds!

Im going to change the o rings and see what happens....

Thanks for all your input! Keep it coming guys, this is really put a stop in my build. I dont wanna finish it up till i get this figured out.
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 1BAD_LS1
well the car starts and runs now but it backfires and shoots flames and gas from the manifolds!

Im going to change the o rings and see what happens....

Thanks for all your input! Keep it coming guys, this is really put a stop in my build. I dont wanna finish it up till i get this figured out.
PM returned!!

It's all the injector scaling. Fixed my problem. Keep me posted!
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Originally Posted by 1BAD_LS1
Im gonna buy some really cheap oi tomorrow and put it in lol.



I pulled the the fuel pump relay fuse and the darn car started after a few cranks and kept running for about 5 minutes, lol. shouldn't it have ran out of gas?

Now it wont start again! gonna have to make sure they are all seated good.

Think it might be the injectors... I just put on some used siemens deka 60# injectors (yes i tuned for them).... Not sure what else it could be!
where the injectors tested ?
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Originally Posted by elias_799
where the injectors tested ?
yep all flow matched...
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I messed up big! I think i figured the problem out!

I made a mistake of entering g/s into my Injector Flow Rate vs KPA instead of lb/hr!!! LOL

Here is how large the diiference in numbers is!
g/s =
8.474866

Compared to

lb/hr =
66.86285

NO WONDER I HAVE GAS IN MY OIL!!!!

Damn gas tank is empty, lol.... Gotta drain the oil and put some gas in it and see what happens!
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