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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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So I pulled the entire engine to do the cam swap. I had to do an oil pan, front main, rear main, and rear cover gaskets so it was just easier. Now for the cam swap...since I have the engine out should I just flip it upside down when I go to pull the cam out?? I don`t have the JRP lifter tool and flipping the engine seems like a better alternative to dowel rods. Is there anything I`m missing?
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Old Nov 3, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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only thing i can think that could possibly be a problem is oil getting into the top end/ intake.
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since your engine is out i would do heads too while im there man, but i think it seems ok to flip it upside down. try it out
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itd work bro!
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I would be concerned about the lifters either coming partially out and not returning properly or potentially turning in the plastic retainers. I know the retainers are designed to prevent them from turning, but again they are plastic. I don't know how much space there is between the head surface and the lifters compared to their height, but I would avoid it. Go buy some wooden dowels for about $3 and do it the correct way.
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 03:16 AM
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With engine upside down, it will work.
i did it on my Crate engine and it took about 20 mins or so
since you have the oil pan off, i would recommend ARP rod bolts too.
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Old Nov 4, 2009 | 03:52 AM
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I was thinking the same thing if I was going to due a future cam swap.

One member made me aware of putting 1/4 or 5/16 aluminum dowel rods through the holes behind the cam gear to hold up the lifters.

There's a write up on here about it.
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Flipping the motor will work fine. There is no physical way the lifters can come out the top without taking the trays off.
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Flipping the motor will work fine. There is no physical way the lifters can come out the top without taking the trays off.
true that
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That is what I was thinking. I couldn`t imagine there being a problem doing it upside down. Maybe oil running to the top end, but I was going to already have the valvecovers, pan, and basically the rest of the covers off too so that wasn`t going to be an issue. I generally like to avoid getting wood near a motor, lint from rags is bad enough but wood debris in a motor could not be good. Now I just have to decide how I am going to align the front and rear covers and oil pan.

I think I`m going to end up putting the front and rear covers back on and then the pan.
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