Custom Cam or Shelf Cam?
Almost every off the shelf cam started out as a custom grind that produced great results and was then put in production.
Also someones custom grind cam, that they dont like the numbers to be known may be their own production cam and may be in more than one kind of vehicle, and they use it cause its proven to work on there builds.
Take Texas speed for instance, all there cams were a idea they put into a build and then produced it.
Also someones custom grind cam, that they dont like the numbers to be known may be their own production cam and may be in more than one kind of vehicle, and they use it cause its proven to work on there builds.
Take Texas speed for instance, all there cams were a idea they put into a build and then produced it.
Why do you think it would be harder for an inexperienced tuner to tune a custom cam vs an off the shelf cam? You yourself stated above that most custom specs are very similar to off the shelf cams.Im pretty sure that not every well known LSX tuner has tuned every off the shelf cam.
And Professional(Quality) LSX tuners do not need to have tuned every cam to know how to tune a custom grind or any cam. That is why you pay them for their knowledge.
The OP posted in another post in this section about DL tunes from HPT forum and using them to get a start for another members car. Which leads me to believe that he is just a beginner when it comes to tuning. Which would lead me to believe that tuning for that cam would be daunting task.
Although the specs may be close that is it. If you have a MS4 for example you can go on tech boards and find problems and or help for tune. If you have a custom cam which most do not like the specs to be posted you will be less likely to get alot of help.
And Professional(Quality) LSX tuners do not need to have tuned every cam to know how to tune a custom grind or any cam. That is why you pay them for their knowledge.
The OP posted in another post in this section about DL tunes from HPT forum and using them to get a start for another members car. Which leads me to believe that he is just a beginner when it comes to tuning. Which would lead me to believe that tuning for that cam would be daunting task.
And Professional(Quality) LSX tuners do not need to have tuned every cam to know how to tune a custom grind or any cam. That is why you pay them for their knowledge.
The OP posted in another post in this section about DL tunes from HPT forum and using them to get a start for another members car. Which leads me to believe that he is just a beginner when it comes to tuning. Which would lead me to believe that tuning for that cam would be daunting task.
Well if you are finding similar tunes that someone did and tweaking it I don't think that you will know how to tune a car without one of those crutches and making peak/optimum performance.
Which leads me back to my first point if you aren't going for a certain goal, number or willing to spend for the tune then why pay the extra money for the custom cam.
You can find a new cam in the classifieds for alot cheaper then new and save some cash.
Which leads me back to my first point if you aren't going for a certain goal, number or willing to spend for the tune then why pay the extra money for the custom cam.
You can find a new cam in the classifieds for alot cheaper then new and save some cash.
Well if you are finding similar tunes that someone did and tweaking it I don't think that you will know how to tune a car without one of those crutches and making peak/optimum performance.
Which leads me back to my first point if you aren't going for a certain goal, number or willing to spend for the tune then why pay the extra money for the custom cam.
You can find a new cam in the classifieds for alot cheaper then new and save some cash.
Which leads me back to my first point if you aren't going for a certain goal, number or willing to spend for the tune then why pay the extra money for the custom cam.
You can find a new cam in the classifieds for alot cheaper then new and save some cash.
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Guys, I think a lot of the issues tuning 'custom' or 'off-the-shelf' cams has more to do with the amount of cam overlap one has to deal with vs the actual cam designation.
So, if a tuner has a lot of experience getting cams with ample overlap to idle and generally run well at part-throttle and WOT, then the actual cam designation is really not that significant.
Having spent the last 1 1/2 years learning to tune my own vehicle (EFILive) I am not sure I would ever be happy with anyone else's tune.
But for the OP, it sounds like just starting with a 'milder' aftermarket cam and a 'base' tune would give him the least grief.
There are a lot of good points in this thread, but we probably agree that most people that choose unique cams will either seek out a great tuning shop or do it themselves.
..WeathermanShawn..
So, if a tuner has a lot of experience getting cams with ample overlap to idle and generally run well at part-throttle and WOT, then the actual cam designation is really not that significant.
Having spent the last 1 1/2 years learning to tune my own vehicle (EFILive) I am not sure I would ever be happy with anyone else's tune.
But for the OP, it sounds like just starting with a 'milder' aftermarket cam and a 'base' tune would give him the least grief.
There are a lot of good points in this thread, but we probably agree that most people that choose unique cams will either seek out a great tuning shop or do it themselves.
..WeathermanShawn..
You guys have done a gread job with the original question although it did take a few turns but that's what makes it interesting. Anyone reading this thread will come away with some good information.
