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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 5.3LJimmy
I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but you can not machine the faces of the mating surfaces on a cracked rod. There are no dowels to align the cap, it is held true by the jagged surface left by the cracking process. Machining the mating surfaces will remove the fractured surface and allow the cap to move around on the bolts.
im guessing your no machinest. the local machine shop charged me 30 bucks to hone out my rods. but i got time in class to do it myself. threw some oversized bearings in it, and its good to go.

there is NOTHING wrong with resizing cracked rods using oversized OD berings. its common practice. that way you know your rods are true. with used rods, who knows what the specs are.

take all 8 rods and have them resized is my vote.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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No I'm not a machinist, but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night. I work at a machine/fabrication shop and deal with metal all day/everyday. I would not try to reuse a rod that is heated to the point that it turned blue, is warped out of round, and oversized. Just the hardening from the heat is enough for me to warrant replacing the rod. To each his own, I'm done arguing with the children.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 5.3LJimmy
No I'm not a machinist, but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night. I work at a machine/fabrication shop and deal with metal all day/everyday. I would not try to reuse a rod that is heated to the point that it turned blue, is warped out of round, and oversized. Just the hardening from the heat is enough for me to warrant replacing the rod. To each his own, I'm done arguing with the children.
I agree in many cases it's more convenient to go to an aftermarket rod (and cost effective too), and this opens up a larger assortment of pistons that can be run...but he never said the rods were heated enough to turn blue or anything like that. People hone these rods all the time with success. Like you said, to each his own though. We always use aftermarket rods, but we're building for more power than just an every day stck rebuild too.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 5.3LJimmy
No I'm not a machinist, but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night. I work at a machine/fabrication shop and deal with metal all day/everyday. I would not try to reuse a rod that is heated to the point that it turned blue, is warped out of round, and oversized. Just the hardening from the heat is enough for me to warrant replacing the rod. To each his own, I'm done arguing with the children.
just because it spun a bearing doesnt mean it got hot. and speaking of hot, havent you evern seen the small end of the rod get red hot when the wrist pins are pressed in?
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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^ That wasn't the rods fault. I would say that was lack of tune that grenaded something.
Your probably right But some forged or hyper piston would have lasted til I got the tune.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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Matt@ Texas Speed: Do you guys stock a set of "stock" rods? I could not find any on your website.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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Your probably right But some forged or hyper piston would have lasted til I got the tune.
If I am not mistaken our stock pistons are Hyper and even mahles to be exact. Not 100% sure though just what I have been told from a normally reliable source.
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Originally Posted by 5.3LJimmy
No I'm not a machinist, but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night. I work at a machine/fabrication shop and deal with metal all day/everyday. I would not try to reuse a rod that is heated to the point that it turned blue, is warped out of round, and oversized. Just the hardening from the heat is enough for me to warrant replacing the rod. To each his own, I'm done arguing with the children.
for someone who works at a shop you dont know what your talking about at all. call me argumentative or whatever. but your talking out your *** on this topic. cracked rods can and have been faced and honed..its a fact deal with it. or get new job.
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by bww3588
just because it spun a bearing doesnt mean it got hot. and speaking of hot, havent you evern seen the small end of the rod get red hot when the wrist pins are pressed in?
Yes I have seen this process and have done it myself. I usually allow the rods to slowly air cool after heating them. It is a little different when the heat is being rapidly quenched by the oil in the crankcase. This is generally referred to as tempering, which makes the metal harder but more brittle.
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for someone who works at a shop you dont know what your talking about at all. call me argumentative or whatever. but your talking out your *** on this topic. cracked rods can and have been faced and honed..its a fact deal with it. or get new job.
Your right I'm sorry.
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Your right I'm sorry.
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