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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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i'm putting my motor together and i get to the LS2 timing chain and installed it and it seems to be waaaaay to loose i've done a seach and guy's say up to
.500 look normal ...well it's not normal to me ..i'm not using it screw that .. has any one else used a aftermarket timing set that was tight " LIKE THERE SUPOSE TO BE ".. i've built 5 motors , done many cam swaps and have never run into this problem .



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That amount of slack is normal for a stock chain. I was told by an engineer at Cloyes that the chains are intentionally loose like that so the robots on the assembly line could install the timing sets. Aftermarket chains can be much tighter since they are installed by hand.

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Aftermarket chains can be much tighter since they are installed by hand.

Shane

what company's should i looking to ? i want to stay with a single roller
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I would recommend the Katech IWIS chain or the RAIN chain. Scoggin Dickey may have some RAIN chains left. We carry the Katech.

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i've got a Cloyes hex-adjust set with only about 3k miles on it and it is that loose, should i junk the chain?
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Old Feb 21, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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jp dual roller here, that thing looks indestructible
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either go to a better chain or you could install the LS3 chain damper. If your block has the holes then the damper is only @ $30.
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either go to a better chain or you could install the LS3 chain damper. If your block has the holes then the damper is only @ $30.
03 IRON block does not have threaded holes needed for a damper
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If you are on the engine stand with it right now, you could drill and tap for the damper.

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Originally Posted by Dickie-311
03 IRON block does not have threaded holes needed for a damper
then I would order the Katech chain from Shane and be done with it.

it's only money
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Originally Posted by XtraCajunSS
I would recommend the Katech IWIS chain or the RAIN chain. Scoggin Dickey may have some RAIN chains left. We carry the Katech.

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+1 on the on the IWIS Katech timing chain.

Even after 75K miles, my original LS1 timing chain didn't have slack like that
LS2 timing chain pictured here.

I couldn't live with that much slack.


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then I would order the Katech chain from Shane and be done with it.

it's only money
it's not the money , i just want it right .. now is this katech chain designed to be used with a dampner for aluminum LS2 engines ? and am i going to have the same slack if i order the KATECH chain .. i dont really care what it cost .. just need to get this together ASAP .
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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I have the Katech chain. I also used the damper. There was still some slack but I don't think it was that much.
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Maybe you just got a bum chain. Maybe try ordering another.
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I had a similar experience with a ls2 chain. I had the same slack as you, tossed the stock chain back on and it had less slack. I was like *** it, stock chain had 100k on it, put the ls2 chain back on after reading how their supposed to have slack in them.

Installed it dot to dot and turned the motor over a few times by hand, chances of it skipping were very slim. It looked ok by my eyeball and buttoned it all up. Car ran fine and clicked off some 11sec passes so I guess it was alright.

In the back of my mind I always wondered if that slack was advancing or retarding the cam in any way. If you got the cash I would invest in a better setup or atleast degree it, if your poor then go with the ls2 chain.

Also keep in mind that when the motor warms up, stuff likes to expand. Maybe that will take some of the slack out, not much is my guess but maybe others can answer that one.
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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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I've worked on other engines that were much worse than that. I rebuilt a Nissan 280z engine like that and it ran fine with a timing chain that was more than twice as long. The engine only spins in one direction. Once the chain is tight on one side, it tends to not move. I never saw anything weird like fluctuating timing or anything like that. All those engines have loose chains like that with guys spinning the motor up around 7000rpm.
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talk to shane @ thunder racing , nice guy .. ordered up a KATECH chain will be in at the end of the week ..see how this works out .
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post some close up pics of both chains so we can see the differences in the way they are made.
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Originally Posted by printmanjackson
post some close up pics of both chains so we can see the differences in the way they are made.
i'll post a pic's of the two chains side by side when is comes in .
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I just replaced my cam and heads and my LS1 chain was that loose; I figured that installing the LS2 chain, it would have been tighter. Nope. Same thing, so I just went with it. Before changing everything my car had 140K+ and no problems.
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