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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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I have read old threads until I have confused myself even more I think. I have a stock motor 01 z28 and I am considering a cam for it. I would love to have heads too but I just can't swing it now. I currently have mac headers w/ full magnaflow, lid, 3:42 gears, 3400 stall. My car went a 12.82 on this set up with street tires. I am going to order a circle d 4c stall though. I am just wondering what cam you guys would recommend for my set up with stock heads and what valve springs you would use with it. My car is not a daily driver or a track car, it is only driven on occasion and has only saw the track two passes since I bought it a year ago. I would just like a good sound and strong pull. I just like the light to light action beside the mustang on sat night. LOL. Thanks for any input!
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the MS4 cam only is a good choice... makes decent numbers and allows for huge power potential should you ever decide to swap heads down the road.
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bww3588
the MS4 cam only is a good choice... makes decent numbers and allows for huge power potential should you ever decide to swap heads down the road.
Thanks! Anybody else?
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by damien_tiffany
Thanks! Anybody else?
Go for the TRex.
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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A custom cam!

But, if you looking to get an off the shelf cam there are alot out there.
Thunder Racing, Texas Speed, Tick, Futra, Vengeance, and others all have proven cams.

I like the sound of GM's ASA cam and it's not some donkey dick can either and it's easy on the valve train.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL1OhyPw9Sw
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Originally Posted by 1969mach1
A custom cam!

But, if you looking to get an off the shelf cam there are alot out there.
Thunder Racing, Texas Speed, Tick, Futra, Vengeance, and others all have proven cams.

I like the sound of GM's ASA cam and it's not some donkey dick can either and it's easy on the valve train.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL1OhyPw9Sw
That cam does sound good. I have been looking up the cams on youtube as people list them. What do you guys think my car will run with a one of these cam changes and a 3600-3800 stall change with some radials?
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You don't really have enough stall for a MS4 or TRex....
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Originally Posted by SOMbitch
You don't really have enough stall for a MS4 or TRex....
how much of a stall would he need then?
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I would have a custom cam spec'd out with good power under the curve if you are looking for a street cam that will be tracked on every so often. I had PatrickG spec me a cam for my stock heads. Good luck with whatever you decide man!
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Originally Posted by Inbred
how much of a stall would he need then?
They recommend 4000.
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Originally Posted by RedRocketZ28
I would have a custom cam spec'd out with good power under the curve if you are looking for a street cam that will be tracked on every so often. I had PatrickG spec me a cam for my stock heads. Good luck with whatever you decide man!
that custom cam wouldnt be worth it once he adds heads. if he doesnt plan to add heads and stay cam only, then yea, but an off the shelf cam would be his best bet, esp if he can find one used.
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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My vote is for the SI4 cam. Great power, room to grow with heads, and should work ok with your stall. Great street maners as well.
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Look into something in the 228-230 range.
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Originally Posted by bww3588
that custom cam wouldnt be worth it once he adds heads. if he doesnt plan to add heads and stay cam only, then yea, but an off the shelf cam would be his best bet, esp if he can find one used.
Not true at all. My cam is a 231/232 .612/.588 111+4 and will respond very well once I add aftermarket heads. The MS4 cam which you suggested doesn't sound like it would meet his needs at all. Something in the high 220's low 230's would be a great cam for what he is looking for.
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Originally Posted by RedRocketZ28
Not true at all. My cam is a 231/232 .612/.588 111+4 and will respond very well once I add aftermarket heads. The MS4 cam which you suggested doesn't sound like it would meet his needs at all. Something in the high 220's low 230's would be a great cam for what he is looking for.
im sure it will respond very well, but it wont respond as well if you had that cam spec'd for a good set of heads. what im saying, is why waste money on a custom cam now when he plans to change things later. when he can buy a used off the shelf cam (whichever he chooses) for now and have a custom cam made after he gets heads, intake etc...to maxamize his power potential.
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I understand what you are saying. He could still have a cam spec'd right now for his goals with a future head swap in mind also. It all depends on what he is looking for right now, then also what he is looking for later on down the road. I knew that I wanted to evetually get a set of aftermarket heads when I had my cam spec'd.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 12:00 AM
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I appreciate all of the feedback. I would like to add some good heads later on but that could be a while down the road. I am just looking for the best cam for my current application right now. I am putting in a 4c circle d or a ss3600 yank stall with another new built tranny so I should have a good stall and trans to back up most of the cams that suit my application I hope anyway. I haven't ordered my stall yet obviously but I plan to hopefully tomorrow. Is there anything you guys want to add regarding my stall for the cam's you have pointed out?
Thanks again
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Originally Posted by damien_tiffany
I appreciate all of the feedback. I would like to add some good heads later on but that could be a while down the road. I am just looking for the best cam for my current application right now. I am putting in a 4c circle d or a ss3600 yank stall with another new built tranny so I should have a good stall and trans to back up most of the cams that suit my application I hope anyway. I haven't ordered my stall yet obviously but I plan to hopefully tomorrow. Is there anything you guys want to add regarding my stall for the cam's you have pointed out?
Thanks again

spend the money on a built tranny and a rearend, then spend the money for cam and heads!!!!!!!!! makes no sense to make power then have your tranny take a dump.. build the tranny and rearend to be able to withstand the power and abuse.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 01:34 AM
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What kind of HP and TQ gains are you gonna get from that GM cam with an otherwise stock LS1? I am also interested in a cam swap and do not know much about them. I have no intentions of any sort of head work at this time.
Red Rocket, do you do most of your work yourself or do you have a speed shop that helps you out? I am from Marshalltown area and would love to find someone/somewhere that could help me with my car.

Thanks guys.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bww3588
that custom cam wouldnt be worth it once he adds heads. if he doesnt plan to add heads and stay cam only, then yea, but an off the shelf cam would be his best bet, esp if he can find one used.
a custom cam cost the same as an "off the shelf" cam
plus it will just make more power down the road with what ever else is done ie heads or what ever...
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