Swap in bigger cam for 15-20rwhp?
I went from a 220-224 112 with .537 lift
to a comp 232/234 112 with .598 lift
+ a 10% u.d. pulley, and a ported throttle body and gained 34 hp and 4 ft of tq, but the tq curve was also much longer..
So theres always room for improvment, in my case my first cam had a realy low lift...
to a comp 232/234 112 with .598 lift
+ a 10% u.d. pulley, and a ported throttle body and gained 34 hp and 4 ft of tq, but the tq curve was also much longer..
So theres always room for improvment, in my case my first cam had a realy low lift...
I reved both cams to 6500. The new cam does peak high 6200. Which I dont mind cause I do mostly highway pulls.
Looking back now I wish I went with a custom grind, but either way its a huge improvment over my first baby cam, it just didnt have enought lift.
Heres the dyno sheet comparing the two, the bottom line is the old 220-224 cam, then top two lines are new cam numbers (one is with cutoutclosed other is with it open)
Im glad I did the switch, cause I spent 250$ on a new cam vs $1500 for a set of heads or $1000+ for a fast. Plus I didnt think id gain as much as I did from just a bigger cam.
Looking back now I wish I went with a custom grind, but either way its a huge improvment over my first baby cam, it just didnt have enought lift.
Heres the dyno sheet comparing the two, the bottom line is the old 220-224 cam, then top two lines are new cam numbers (one is with cutoutclosed other is with it open)
Im glad I did the switch, cause I spent 250$ on a new cam vs $1500 for a set of heads or $1000+ for a fast. Plus I didnt think id gain as much as I did from just a bigger cam.
Last edited by maxspeed96ct; Mar 30, 2010 at 01:55 PM.
sounds like the O.P. is on a budget, if you have the money then get a baddass set of heads.
But if you on a budget a better cam will make alittle more , and is definatly worth it if your doing labor yourself.
But if you on a budget a better cam will make alittle more , and is definatly worth it if your doing labor yourself.
Last edited by maxspeed96ct; Mar 30, 2010 at 04:21 PM.
We dyno tested several different camshafts right in that duration area. Give us a call we can provide you with engine dyno data for the camshaft you have as well as several other options that can add power over a large rpm range! 
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Co-Owner, Texas Speed & Performance, Ltd.
2005 Twin Turbo C6
404cid Stroker, 67mm Twins
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Co-Owner, Texas Speed & Performance, Ltd.
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994rwhp/902lb ft @ 22 psi (mustang dyno) www.Texas-Speed.com
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Co-Owner, Texas Speed & Performance, Ltd.
2005 Twin Turbo C6
404cid Stroker, 67mm Twins
994rwhp/902lb ft @ 22 psi (mustang dyno) www.Texas-Speed.com
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To be honest, LSA is a byproduct of the valve events that went into creating the right cam. That approach is tough to grasp and tougher to market. Nearly all vendors offer the standard 110-112-114 line up because that is one of the three things 95% of consumers know about camshafts.
haha^^
i agree so many cars take their cams to the point where they enter saturation, id rather be on the lower end in the efficient region. at the end of the day no one really cares how big it is. lol
i agree so many cars take their cams to the point where they enter saturation, id rather be on the lower end in the efficient region. at the end of the day no one really cares how big it is. lol
the 224 is a cam that has proven itself time and time again. If i were in your shoes, i would go ahead and add some bad *** heads. should definitely wake up your car. then later on if you want to step up to a bigger cam, you would have bad *** heads to match it.
Ill be switching my 224r for a TFS stage 3 this weekend. The new cam specs are 585/585 228/230 on 112 lsa. Currrently, I have the following on my c5 FRC vette:
Prc 5.3l 59cc stage 2 heads
fast 90
ls2 tb
longtubes with offroad x-pipe
slp Pulley
30 pnd injectors
ls7 clutch
i should complete the cam swap on saturday and take car for tuning next week. ill post results and numbers.
Prc 5.3l 59cc stage 2 heads
fast 90
ls2 tb
longtubes with offroad x-pipe
slp Pulley
30 pnd injectors
ls7 clutch
i should complete the cam swap on saturday and take car for tuning next week. ill post results and numbers.
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For everybody saying to buy a set of heads.......not trying to be a dick but try reading my first post and sig, have PRC stg 1.0 heads sitting for install this summer which I can't wait for.
Thanks for those graphs Jason, looks like both the 224 and 228 cams made 465hp at the 6200rpm range and since I'm staying under 6200rpm, the cam I have now is fine, I wish I could just figure what to do about this crappy 10 bolt now.
Thanks for those graphs Jason, looks like both the 224 and 228 cams made 465hp at the 6200rpm range and since I'm staying under 6200rpm, the cam I have now is fine, I wish I could just figure what to do about this crappy 10 bolt now.
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