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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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Your number works at summits sight!!!!!!!!!! Great price. Thanks again.
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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The Lunati is good to over 1000+ hp. The stock GM crank has proven to be a pretty stought piece. You can't say that the Eagle is better quality or is more durable. Look at rear end gears. Which are better Origional GM 3.73's or GM wanna be Motive's???

I would sure have to dump $5-6K into a motor and have something happen. Better to be safe than sorry. Spend the extra now and not have to worry later...
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 2001 Pewter WS6
The Lunati is good to over 1000+ hp. The stock GM crank has proven to be a pretty stought piece. You can't say that the Eagle is better quality or is more durable. Look at rear end gears. Which are better Origional GM 3.73's or GM wanna be Motive's???

I would sure have to dump $5-6K into a motor and have something happen. Better to be safe than sorry. Spend the extra now and not have to worry later...

to each there own, some of us have some sort of buget..829 vs 1700 for a 4340 crank.. why stop at 1700 why not get a HTC for what 2500 while we are at it lets throw on some C5R heads.. all this poor guy could afford was the Eagle please dont rain on my parade there is nothing wrong with eagle.
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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well... seems i am prety much where i was before, no one really knows yet, i wont be ready to buy any parts for a month or two so hopefully there will be a little more info out there by then.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 01:23 PM
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to each there own, some of us have some sort of buget..829 vs 1700 for a 4340 crank.. why stop at 1700 why not get a HTC for what 2500 while we are at it lets throw on some C5R heads.. all this poor guy could afford was the Eagle please dont rain on my parade there is nothing wrong with eagle
I am not raining on his parade. He asked which crank for max effort. I was simply answering his question honestly. When I got my kit, Lunati was pretty much all there was. I would have loved to of saved a few buck but I am glad I went the route I did. I feel confident I won't have any issues with the quality of Lunati's products. I know everytime I try to save a dime it costs me a dollar to re do it the way I should have in the first place. I would hate to see someone save a $1000 on a $4000+ engine and have a problem that may leave him back at square 1 minus $4000... I would rather take a little longer to save the extra money and do it right the first time. I am definately not saying the Eagle Crank is bad but I am willing to bet the Lunati is definately stronger and more precise. To each his own I was only answering his question.
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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Why is the Eagle crank not as strong if they are made of the same material, same dementions....etc.
Im in the process of putting together a budget max effort 408 and was planning on Eagle Crank, Lunati Rods, and Diamond pistons.
Untill now i was all set but maybe there is more than meets the eye... ?
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 10:53 PM
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Eagle metal is from China, which is typically a lower caliber, but were talking about LS1 cranks...which don't have a high failure rate. Eagle are new to the market and not proven yet so that may cause some pause, but they have a good track record. I would not be afraid of theeagle, but if budget allows I'd go (and did) Callies, despite MTI 427's bad experience. APE can get killer deals at the moment (I think $1200 ish if there are any of those left).
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Eagle dosen't do as much in the finish dept as Lunati.
Lunati goes over each piece after it has been finished to make sure everything is perfect. I know this is one reason for the $$$ difference.
In most cases a machine shop will have to spend more time with the eagle piece to get it to balance from what I have heard.
I personially believe that after 40-50 people are running these everyone will get more comfortable, and we will see Horsepower out of the eagle setup that impress us all.
I think they will exceed their rated power.
Only time will tell.
This is kinda like compairing a F body to a vette.
Best Car = Vette
Best buy for the money = F Body
I have 3 F bodies so you can see which way I would go.
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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is Eagle crank isnt as nice of a n finish as say a lunati or callies. but remember neither Lunati or Eagle have LS1 Specific rods............... for max effort you should look somewhere else for rods
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KHShapiro
is Eagle crank isnt as nice of a n finish as say a lunati or callies. but remember neither Lunati or Eagle have LS1 Specific rods............... for max effort you should look somewhere else for rods
What do you think about the callies rods. They are in the same price range as the Eagle and Lunati.
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 02:16 PM
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Callies rods are going to be in the same price range as Lunati's but, the Eagle stuff is going to be a lot cheaper. The Callies rod is the only one that is LS1 spefic.
As for the Callies crank breaking.....cranks break for a lot of reasons. It may not have been the crank fault. When cranks break they tend to do a lot of damage, not leaving much evidence for why it broke. All I can say is that I have used Callies cranks for a long time and also Lunati's, those are going to be your best choices for a LS1 engine as of right now. The Eagle crank is good but not in the same league as the other two.

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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 06:28 PM
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Callies rods are going to be in the same price range as Lunati's but, the Eagle stuff is going to be a lot cheaper. The Callies rod is the only one that is LS1 spefic.
As for the Callies crank breaking.....cranks break for a lot of reasons. It may not have been the crank fault. When cranks break they tend to do a lot of damage, not leaving much evidence for why it broke. All I can say is that I have used Callies cranks for a long time and also Lunati's, those are going to be your best choices for a LS1 engine as of right now. The Eagle crank is good but not in the same league as the other two.

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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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To me this was a real simple choice.

Callies

Eagle for $850 to $950 depending on who is selling it or Callies for $1200. I went with the Callies from AP Engineering. If Chris & Brian have a few of those left that's is the deal to get in on! I think when the stroker goes together I'll go with Callies rods since it's an LS1 rod.
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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I still have a few left, they won't be here long.

Thanks
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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I got in on one of those cranks also from AP. Can't beat the price. I went with the Eagle rod though but I think it should be enough for my application.
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