I need a good CA cam...
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I need a good CA cam... i just want to start off by saying ive been reading on this site for 5 months and have learned so much from all you guys...thanks; you all are so smart and seem to be very help full....i need help.
im in CA and really would like to put together a 400+ rwhp H/C package.
i think i will go with either Patriots 5.3 or 5.7 stage 2 heads...
but im not sure on the cam...
its a weekand only car, 18K miles, NEEDS TO PASS CA SMOG,1500-6300 heard a 224/224 .565/.565 114 would pass
or a 222/222 .560/.560 114 ??
please help... and which head will best suite my needs, 5.3 or 5.7
any info would help. thanks.
im in CA and really would like to put together a 400+ rwhp H/C package.
i think i will go with either Patriots 5.3 or 5.7 stage 2 heads...
but im not sure on the cam...
its a weekand only car, 18K miles, NEEDS TO PASS CA SMOG,1500-6300 heard a 224/224 .565/.565 114 would pass
or a 222/222 .560/.560 114 ??
please help... and which head will best suite my needs, 5.3 or 5.7
any info would help. thanks.
The 5.3L will be your best bet all around. 5.3's enable you to run more compression while retaining more PV clearance, therefor giving you more room for running a bigger cam...
I'd personally check out TEA's Stg 1.5 5.3L heads. They're making GREAT power, 2 yr warranty, and work great with mild cams as well. FMS offers some great cams as well, and could provide something to fit your needs. The FMS 226 cam on a 114 should pass emissions no problem, and EASILY make 400+ rwhp w/ a set of TEA's.....Check my sig for TEA/FMS results....Good luck
Josh
I'd personally check out TEA's Stg 1.5 5.3L heads. They're making GREAT power, 2 yr warranty, and work great with mild cams as well. FMS offers some great cams as well, and could provide something to fit your needs. The FMS 226 cam on a 114 should pass emissions no problem, and EASILY make 400+ rwhp w/ a set of TEA's.....Check my sig for TEA/FMS results....Good luck
Josh
224/224 114 is the largest you can go, which is why I got one. It will not pass smog without a tune though. As mentioned, LT headers will give you an automatic failing. You need to keep your stock manifolds and y-pipe and put them back on for emmisions testing. You can leave the cam in if you get it tuned right. Where in Cali are you?
You better hope they wont snoop around, most places are becoming really strict with the new fines against them if they pass an illegal car. LT headers are not something that are easily overlooked, especially since they will move your cats.
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Originally Posted by Damian
The FMS 226 cam on a 114 should pass emissions no problem
After seeing how easily a 224/224 114 will pass smog, I don't see how a 226/226 114 will fail. There's guys running around with 224 112's and they pass emissions without a problem. Emissions on a 224 114 are really clean and far from failing.
Originally Posted by M6HuggerSS
hey ferocity...how do u like your cam....powerband...idle....driving character...etc...nice car, ilove that color.
Thanks for the comments
Originally Posted by 01_SuperSlow
After seeing how easily a 224/224 114 will pass smog, I don't see how a 226/226 114 will fail. There's guys running around with 224 112's and they pass emissions without a problem. Emissions on a 224 114 are really clean and far from failing.
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So you guys with 224/224 114 lsa and an ls1edit tune to improve drivabilty are not having any problem passing the emissions testing?
Do you need a seperate tune that runs somewhat lean? if so what A/f ratio do you need to set it up at?
Do you need a special tune to pass the sniffer? or do you just set it up as you would as a good performance tune and then you just pass?
Thanks as I'm looking to throw in a 224/224 114 lsa cam here in Jersey which is second only to california..
Thanks for any information ...
So far I'm digging this thread..
Do you need a seperate tune that runs somewhat lean? if so what A/f ratio do you need to set it up at?
Do you need a special tune to pass the sniffer? or do you just set it up as you would as a good performance tune and then you just pass?
Thanks as I'm looking to throw in a 224/224 114 lsa cam here in Jersey which is second only to california..
Thanks for any information ...
So far I'm digging this thread..
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From: Newport Coast, Ca
Man,
Some People are soooooo quick to go out on the limb and say that if you have a 224/224 114lsa that you need a good tune. Says who? Lets put it this way. When Ihad my 98 SS this is the list of mods I had when i wen to get smogged i had:
FLP's with cats
TR 224/224 114lsa cam
LS6 Intake manifold (no egr)
Minimal Tuning.
When i say minimal, i mean only adusting the shiftpoints and adjusting the idle. I NEVER messed with the a/f, fuel tables, maps, egr, etc... ((( My EGR at the time was actually non functional. )))
I passed no problem! I think i was allowed a max of 55 Hydrocarbons on the 25mph test, and I registered 21 i think. Give or take one or two. As for the visual, geez all i did was pay the guy off and "he just didnt see those headers"
Its all about that LSA IMO. 114 is a good lsa for cal. Granted it pushes the powerband up a lil higher than the 112, but you know the saying, "you cant have your cake and eat it too"
Be more concerned with the "Sniffer" portion of the test. Theres ALWAYS ways around the "VISUAL"
Some People are soooooo quick to go out on the limb and say that if you have a 224/224 114lsa that you need a good tune. Says who? Lets put it this way. When Ihad my 98 SS this is the list of mods I had when i wen to get smogged i had:
FLP's with cats
TR 224/224 114lsa cam
LS6 Intake manifold (no egr)
Minimal Tuning.
When i say minimal, i mean only adusting the shiftpoints and adjusting the idle. I NEVER messed with the a/f, fuel tables, maps, egr, etc... ((( My EGR at the time was actually non functional. )))
I passed no problem! I think i was allowed a max of 55 Hydrocarbons on the 25mph test, and I registered 21 i think. Give or take one or two. As for the visual, geez all i did was pay the guy off and "he just didnt see those headers"
Its all about that LSA IMO. 114 is a good lsa for cal. Granted it pushes the powerband up a lil higher than the 112, but you know the saying, "you cant have your cake and eat it too"
Be more concerned with the "Sniffer" portion of the test. Theres ALWAYS ways around the "VISUAL"
Originally Posted by Ferocity02
224/224 114 do not easily pass smog. They can barely creek by. 112 does not stand a good chance of passing without some good tuning. 226/226 114 will also fail without heavy tuning, which can just rob you of some of the power the cam may be producing. None of these cams will pass without tuning. Some of the smaller ones can though.
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Last edited by Candy; Jan 21, 2004 at 07:57 AM.