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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 11:53 PM
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Hi everybody im new here and need you guys help! I have a 2001 ws6 boltons
lloyd elliot cam, milled 243 and ss3600. The car only ran 12.15@111, 1.77 60ft.
I was expecting 11.6! Whats up im in Kansas City if that helps. Oh cam specs are 226@.50 629lift.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 12:10 AM
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Well are you m6 or A4? Whats your full time slip look like. Help us help you. Milled 243s dont buy you a lot. Even with good weather and a damn good 60 I don't know if I would say an 11.6 is in the bag. IMO, for your 111mph you are in 12.0 range.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 12:17 AM
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^^^^ Agree w/01ssredA4..timeslip would help along w/what r the other mods?..we love to help ..but u should ask that question on drag racing tech forum..
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 03:37 AM
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Drag racing section is gonna request even more details
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 06:35 AM
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you had the car tuned?was it dynoed?3600 stall with 3.23 ? maybe a slipping trans,or maybe the cam was 1 tooth off.what size injectors?
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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r/t .486
60' 1.789
330 5.041
1/8 7.771
mph 90.54
1000 10.135
1/4 12.155
mph 111.26
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by garygnu
you had the car tuned?was it dynoed?3600 stall with 3.23 ? maybe a slipping trans,or maybe the cam was 1 tooth off.what size injectors?
dyno 399rwhp 364rwtq. stock 28 pound injectors. and yes 323s. the trans dont fell like its slipping
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Your 1/8 and 1/4 on spot on with each other. The 60' looks great, this is all the car is going to run. Using online calculators (http://www.hotrodpitstop.com/tools.html) the ET and speed are right on as well. This is probibly not too far off for a 400whp 3800# car.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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You are going to need a bunch more muscle than 399/364 that to run 11.60s.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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Seems normal. You dont always know when your tranny is eating power. But from all the ones ive seen that is alright. Stock milled heads? Unported?

My 99 TA original engine w/ a 224/230 cam and milled only heads (M6 though) went best of 12.20 @ 115. Few more MPH cecause of zero converter slippage... its about average.

If you had a tuner and wideband you could log it probably and finess it some....not on a dyno either. Gears would help your ET some also... probably knock a tenth or 2 off that 60ft....theres a half second. .
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 12:52 PM
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I would guess about right.

My old 346 ran best 12.02 and never got into the 11's no matter how hard I tried LOL

It made 417/383 with a Yank SS3600

My 60' was usually a low 1.7 but hit a few 1.68-1.69's
Ran 7.6-7.7 in the 1/8th @ 91-92
12.02 best trapping 112
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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Do u guy think 373s and a cutout would help get me too 11s. Are am i finished? It was a jegs catback if that helps. Thanks for the help so far guys. Oh i forgot dyno numbers was unlocked.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:18 PM
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my car with mods in sig put down 409hp/403tq and has ran a best of a 12.9 at 114. My 60' was a 2.2 though lol i would think that some better gears would net ya some better times.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:29 PM
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I run 11.70s on motor with a ms3 cam and ss4000 and 3.73's with my old 10 bolt, untouched heads the rest of my mods in my signature put me there, except the new 9" , my car weighs 3420 pounds without me in it 3640 with me in it. Hope that helps you out
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kons02Z28
I run 11.70s on motor with a ms3 cam and ss4000 and 3.73's with my old 10 bolt, untouched heads the rest of my mods in my signature put me there, except the new 9" , my car weighs 3420 pounds without me in it 3640 with me in it. Hope that helps you out
Do you think my car is more heavy than your car? Thats about wat i wanted to run. Your car doesn't even have 243s. Wat can get me there? Nice time buddy.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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are u at sea level what was the da that day all those can have an affect on trap and times. down here in fl a bolt on car will trap 110 ive seen one auto non stalled bolt on ss do 111mph so a cam car should def do better than that however if ur high up it wont be as good
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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I believe your car is 200 pounds heavier than mine, TA guys feel free to chime in. Thats correct my car has 241s, if it was me i would get that converter restalled to a 4000 i love mine and mine is my daily driver, with a ss4000 and 3:73's you still can cruise 60mph at 2000 rpms, if you have full exhaust i would definetly put a cut-out on there, and make sure you have a good tuner because alot of power is made just by having a good tune,have you done all of the free mods if not you can use the search bar at the top of the page and search for free mods
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No one keyed in on the 111 mph. . . thats slow! I liked the 1.7 60' but after that something didn't work right.

Had a tune? I saw you said dyno'd, but dyno isn't practical for tuning other than a max #. Street tune and response tuning is better.

Good luck.
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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Times look spot on to me. I'd say put some gears in it, lightin it up some, and put some sticky tires on it, and let'er eat!!
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Duffster
No one keyed in on the 111 mph. . . thats slow! I liked the 1.7 60' but after that something didn't work right.

Had a tune? I saw you said dyno'd, but dyno isn't practical for tuning other than a max #. Street tune and response tuning is better.

Good luck.
Its got a street tune it feels go drives like stock and all. Iam wit you on the fact something didnt work right. Will the gears and cutout put me in the 11s?
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