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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 11:46 PM
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I suppose the lifter could be sitting on the crankshaft and not down in the oil pan yet....

I've heard at least one person here who had to remove the engine to get a dropped lifter out....not sure if that was necessary but it was done...

..that blows
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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Well, I have put over a hundred cams in and I would say that 1 out of every 20 installs, I will hear the lifters still hitting the cam lobe. I always leave the push rods in and watch them closely. If one is going up and down then I hold it with a pen magnet. If none of them move then I pull the push rods out in case of having the extra weight and pull the cam out and back in.
This is how I do mine. if they can support the weight of a pushrod without falling, I'm not too worried about pulling the cam out
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Fireball
This is how I do mine. if they can support the weight of a pushrod without falling, I'm not too worried about pulling the cam out
this is how i do it too. works like a charm. you can see if the lifter is going to fall before you ever pull out the cam.

anyway, good luck to you. i hope you can get everything back together
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by KGSloan
this is how i do it too. works like a charm. you can see if the lifter is going to fall before you ever pull out the cam.

anyway, good luck to you. i hope you can get everything back together
You can unbolt the oil pan and fish it out with a magnet. Buy the JPR tool from Thunder Racing. I was too cheap to spend $84.00 to buy the tools. It cost me $825.00 to have the heads ripped off, gaskets and bolts replaced.

$65.00 to rent a car for 2 days
$825.00 to replace the lifter
JPR cam tools...PRICELESS
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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who the hell charged you 825 to pull the heads???

is that the going rate now???
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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ok guys, i have a friend that owns a scrap yard he deals in all kinds of metals,so tell me what size and how long are these rods and where do you install them? thanks.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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How in the hell did you break your crank pulley? Did you drop it from some insane height of 30ft? Congrats on fishing out the lifter, now get everything put together and take her for a test drive.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 70RallySport
JPR cam tools...PRICELESS
Or you can spend less than $2.00 on the aluminum bar stock and have it work the same. I have used it on all year LS1 F-bodys.
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 05:37 PM
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again, what size and how long do I need to get.?
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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I saw on Thunders web site that the JPR tool will not work with Comp 'R' lifters. Does that go for using the al. bar stock too?
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 12:50 AM
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that is wrong about the comp R lifters...it will work just the same....the lifter bodies are the same..its the internals that are different
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CANNIBAL
The lifters are held in place by the plastic bores. If you remove the plastic bore/liners how do you plan on keeping the lifters in place?
DMAN IT! I guess I did not realize the lifters were not held in place by the lifter bores in the block . Oh well, I will just reinstall them when I am done if I have to.

That's alot of unneccesary work just for a LS1 cam swap. I've done two LS1 cam swaps without pen magnets.....
I don't care about how much work it will be to remove the heads. If I rely on those damn retainers, how much extra work would I have to do when a lifter drops into the pan?????
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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my first time i lost 2 lifters on the 7 cylinder and took the valley cover off and fished them out with a pen mag.. the second swap i used 5/16 brake line from advance auto parts but dont sweat it i was only out about 30 min fishing those 2 lifters out and getting back on track
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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5/16 brake line here, I beleive I had to flatten one side of it lightly with a hammer. (D shape). Worked like a charm.
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 07:06 AM
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how about a wood dowel rod?
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mrclean200518
my first time i lost 2 lifters on the 7 cylinder and took the valley cover off and fished them out with a pen mag.. the second swap i used 5/16 brake line from advance auto parts but dont sweat it i was only out about 30 min fishing those 2 lifters out and getting back on track
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5/16 brake line here, I beleive I had to flatten one side of it lightly with a hammer. (D shape). Worked like a charm.
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how about a wood dowel rod?

...Ummm, its been six years since this thread first posted. I think the OP got it out.
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Old May 20, 2011 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by fastvet
...Ummm, its been six years since this thread first posted. I think the OP got it out.

Or did he?????????


But serious question while I bump this ancient thread. The dowels, what is special about the tools that makes them different than dowels?
I looked on TR's site and they do not have a enlarged picture to show the exact shape of the tools. I am about to do a cam on my CETA and I love having the correct tools, but 100$ here and there for seldom used tools gets expensive. I have a whole box full of **** like that.
What about the spring compressor? Do any of the cheapo auto parts store rentals work worth a damn?
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Old May 20, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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The spring compressor is definetly worth it. It does 2 springs at a time and is sturdy so it save alot of time and frustration. Plus you can sell it when your done if you really wanted to recoup some cost. As for the "tool" that holds the lifters up, I dont know. I used dowels
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Old May 20, 2011 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by J-Train
Or did he?????????


But serious question while I bump this ancient thread. The dowels, what is special about the tools that makes them different than dowels?
I looked on TR's site and they do not have a enlarged picture to show the exact shape of the tools. I am about to do a cam on my CETA and I love having the correct tools, but 100$ here and there for seldom used tools gets expensive. I have a whole box full of **** like that.
What about the spring compressor? Do any of the cheapo auto parts store rentals work worth a damn?
ive done probably half a dozen cam swaps which isnt that many but i never understood spending $80-100 for that JRP tool for holding up the lifters. Go to home depot, lowes, etc and buy 1-5/16 wooden dowel rod for less than a $1, cut it in half and be done.

oh and for spring compressor, theres a thread on here for tims spring compressor or something like that. I have used that same compressor on all the cam swaps and it works flawlessly and was cheap. Check that out and get it if he still makes em.
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Old May 20, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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Guys, online hardware store we use at work, McMaster Carr, 2- 5/16" alum rods 36" long. Part # 6750K143 cost something like $22 plus a couple bucks to ship.
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