Biggest cam I can fit Possible?
Biggest cam I can fit Possible? I have the tr224 now and it does not sound the way i want at all. My brother has a 306 cam in his lt1 and i want my car to sound like that. Is there anything i can get. Plus my car dies more then his ever has what up with that?
Re: Biggest cam I can fit Possible? I don't think there is any way you can make an LS1 sound like an LT1. I've been told it's the aluminum vs. iron block? All I know is it's more than just a cam difference.
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Re: Biggest cam I can fit Possible? the firing order is different which is some of the difference in sound. also compression makes a difference as well as the LSA... the 110 listed WILL be choppy other than the LSA the lift is pretty small but has aggressive duration which combined with LSA crates the chop... if all your after is sound then do a 110 or 112 LSA... if you want functionality and performacne then do more home work on your setup and ultimate goals for the car... big does not mean ultimate power..
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Re: Biggest cam I can fit Possible? Accually LSA is not THE determining factor in the lope, scavaging will make a diffrence ie. my hotcam sounded like a beast, my TR230/224 is mean but not intimidating, and the tr230 is on a 110.8lsa just get some sound clips and hear as many in person as possible. if you have S2 heads then get one that will perform AND sound good, im not a LG fan but they seem to have a good perfroming cam that sounds good. dont ask for the specs tho <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Verdad Gallardo Re: Biggest cam I can fit Possible? I've heard roughness and lope are two different things. Split pattern cams (like the Hotcam) are rougher than single pattern cams, while the amount of valve overlap is what controls the amount of lope. Increasing duration and decreasing LSA increase overlap and the lope. You can also make it lope harder by lowering the idle speed. I've heard sound clips of the TR224 and it sounds pretty mean to me! <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" /> How would want to make it sound different? What does your brother's car sound like?
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Re: Biggest cam I can fit Possible? My comp cam 248/254 duration and 568/571 lift cam on a 110. Sounds pretty good. I have seen a huge difference on topend performance compared to my old 224 cam.
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Re: Biggest cam I can fit Possible? Does it work with a stock short block with redone heads with no problems. I dont want to get a new motor yet. Just want more power and sound.
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Re: Biggest cam I can fit Possible? The LSA will affect the idle. Going from a 112 to a 110 will make the idle so choppy, or the idle so smooth depending on which way you go. The 306 is on a 110, and has ~ 10+ *s of split. its a combo of things but lsa will impact it more than you think. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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Re: Biggest cam I can fit Possible? ...dude, just lower your idle... as low as you can go and still not set a code or die.
I bet you get happier with it real quick.
Also, the more open the exhaust.. the harder it will hit...
Both of those ideas above are cheaper and easier to do than swapping cams...
Just an idea...
I bet you get happier with it real quick.
Also, the more open the exhaust.. the harder it will hit...
Both of those ideas above are cheaper and easier to do than swapping cams...
Just an idea...
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Re: Biggest cam I can fit Possible? Why not go for broke and go with the biggest of the bad that GM has put its heart and soul into.
THE GRAND AM CUP CAM with specs aprrox 237/254, .575 lift and a 106 lsa. Couple guys run this with stock heads and love it and i can guarantee it will lope and perform like a ***** FRUCKA!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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THE GRAND AM CUP CAM with specs aprrox 237/254, .575 lift and a 106 lsa. Couple guys run this with stock heads and love it and i can guarantee it will lope and perform like a ***** FRUCKA!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Hey, this life is short, GO FOR THE GUSTO!
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Re: Biggest cam I can fit Possible? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MTI 427 C5 Roadster:
<strong> Why not go for broke and go with the biggest of the bad that GM has put its heart and soul into.
THE GRAND AM CUP CAM with specs aprrox 237/254, .575 lift and a 106 lsa. Couple guys run this with stock heads and love it and i can guarantee it will lope and perform like a ***** FRUCKA!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Hey, this life is short, GO FOR THE GUSTO!
MTI 427 C5 Roadster </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That cam has no piston to valve issues? And man, what rpm do they shift at? Any track times? That thing is huge.
<strong> Why not go for broke and go with the biggest of the bad that GM has put its heart and soul into.
THE GRAND AM CUP CAM with specs aprrox 237/254, .575 lift and a 106 lsa. Couple guys run this with stock heads and love it and i can guarantee it will lope and perform like a ***** FRUCKA!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Hey, this life is short, GO FOR THE GUSTO!
MTI 427 C5 Roadster </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That cam has no piston to valve issues? And man, what rpm do they shift at? Any track times? That thing is huge.
Re: Biggest cam I can fit Possible? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by White98Z:
<strong> Want soemthing that will work with the stock shortblock with after market heads. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">it will <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong> Want soemthing that will work with the stock shortblock with after market heads. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">it will <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Biggest cam I can fit Possible? Honestly,
YOu should look into the GRAND AM CUP CAM for max power and lope wit stock heads! GM put a TON of R&D into these heads and do a little research and you will see what i mean.
MTI 427 C5 Roadster
YOu should look into the GRAND AM CUP CAM for max power and lope wit stock heads! GM put a TON of R&D into these heads and do a little research and you will see what i mean.
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Re: Biggest cam I can fit Possible? ok so whats the biggest cam that will fit and does not start hurting me on power. I want more power and more lope out of it. I would be happy with more power and nothing eles so poer comes first.