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Old May 29, 2011 | 12:48 PM
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I have been told that this cam is not one to produce HorsePower... A max of 30 or so.
What cam could i use in 02 ls1 trans am that will be decent, that i can use, using the same internal components and spring kit i already purchased.

Desperately need your input and honest opinion on this one.




CAM below is what i have but not yet installed...


Cam Style Hydraulic roller tappet
Basic Operating RPM Range 800-5,800
Intake Duration at 050 inch Lift 206
Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift 212
Duration at 050 inch Lift 206 int./212 exh.
Advertised Intake Duration 259
Advertised Exhaust Duration 265
Advertised Duration 259 int./265 exh.
Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio 0.515 in.
Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio 0.522 in.
Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio 0.515 int./0.522 exh.
Lobe Separation (degrees) 112
Camshaft Gear Attachment 3-bolt
Computer-Controlled Compatible Yes
Grind Number XR259HR
Valve Springs Required Yes

VALVE SPRING KIT AS FOLLOWS...

Brand COMP Cams
Manufacturer's Part Number 26915CS-KIT
Part Type Valve Spring and Retainer Kits
Product Line COMP Cams High Performance Valve Spring Kits
Summit Racing Part Number CCA-26915CS-KIT
UPC 036584225478

Number of Springs Per Valve Single
Outside Diameter of Outer Spring (in) 1.290 in.
Damper Spring Included No
Spring Rate (lbs/in) 313 lbs./in.
Inside Diameter of Outer Spring (in) 0.650 in.
Valve Spring Style Beehive
Coated No
Retainers Included Yes
Retainer Material Steel
Locks Included Yes
Lock Style 7 degree
Lock Groove Quantity 1-groove
Lock Material Hardened steel
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Old May 29, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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that is a good torque cam ,good for stock stall.you can look at the bigger XFI RPM compcams from comp that will work with those springs.54-412-11 to 54-418-11.look at their online catalog.you can use your stock gm retainers and locks.
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Are you looking for a stock like sound/power band or need it to pass emissions testing?

http://speed-eng.com/store/comp-cam-...34-p-1496.html

A Tr220 would also be a nice option.
http://www.thunderracing.com/shop-by...ain/Camshafts/

Another CompCam:
Comp Cams LS1 Camshaft - 218 / 224 .527 / .534 114 LSA
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...oducts_id=1447

Here's a Crane cam:
http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...oducts_id=2568

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Old May 29, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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Are you looking for a stock like sound/power band or need it to pass emissions testing?
None of the above... I live in a area where smog test is not an issue. Would like to have an agressive sound/power band.

Overall what can be expected from the cam i have and is it really worth it...
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Old May 29, 2011 | 01:39 PM
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dude if you looking for a good cam that produces good hp and has great street manners..

something like a 224/224 or even a 228/228 for something a little more aggressive.

the cam you have listed is a small cam, not much bigger than stock or a ls6 grind.

both cams sizes I listed are very common cams choices for guys that want excellent street manners but some extra hp and fun.

if you start going as large as my cam 231/237 the car starts becoming less and less of a daily driver...

when picking a cam...
you have to ask yourself, how big are you going to build your car, what are you goals for hp, and how do you drive your car..

once you list that people can more easily suggest a cam
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what you can expect from your current choice is:

small gains hp, but consistant through the rpm, good for your stock torque converter.
good sound and thump from the 112 lsa...
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[QUOTE=garygnu;14974080]that is a good torque cam ,good for stock stall.you can look at the bigger XFI RPM compcams from comp that will work with those springs.54-412-11 to 54-418-11.look at their online catalog.you can use your stock gm retainers and locks.[/QUOTE


Is the XFI bigger cam known to put out some decent numbers when it comes to horse power? And how would i find it?
I also have some edelbrock headers, SLP lid w/knn filter, Flowmasters, and Hollowed Cats, to go with the cam set up.
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dude if you looking for a good cam that produces good hp and has great street manners..

something like a 224/224 or even a 228/228 for something a little more aggressive.

the cam you have listed is a small cam, not much bigger than stock or a ls6 grind.

both cams sizes I listed are very common cams choices for guys that want excellent street manners but some extra hp and fun.

if you start going as large as my cam 231/237 the car starts becoming less and less of a daily driver...

when picking a cam...
you have to ask yourself, how big are you going to build your car, what are you goals for hp, and how do you drive your car..

once you list that people can more easily suggest a cam


It would definetly be a weekend car, to conserve it better, But I would go on long trips in it occasionally. Like Texas to Cali and back... Would that be an issue?
HP goals... I would like to see my car hit 450-475 one day.
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Old May 29, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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your best bet is talk to some of the local performance shops in your area, tell them what you want to accomplish..

when looking at a cam spec. Look at the numbers at .05 lift..
in example:

224/224 - 581/581 - 114lsa

vs

231/237 - 595/595 - 112lsa

both these cams are bigger than the one you have..

however the 231/237 cam has longer duration, higher lift and high lsa at 112.

most people look at the 112 as the sound. (it does more, but we will keep it simple), the lower you go with that number the rougher your car will idle and the meaner it will sound, the higher you go, the smoother the idle and more tame the car sounds.
for example a 116lsa known to be stealthy, a 112 or 110 is known to sound like a mean race car.

the 231 and 595 effect the amount of airflow through the engine and for how long.
simply put higher numbers (assuming they compliment the build) produce bigger numbers.
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Originally Posted by LASTOFTHEBREED02T/A
It would definetly be a weekend car, to conserve it better, But I would go on long trips in it occasionally. Like Texas to Cali and back... Would that be an issue?
HP goals... I would like to see my car hit 450-475 one day.
perfect info.

to hit 450-475 NA...

you will need heads and cam combo with 90mm intake.
a good size cam would be required.
your current cam will not get you there.

my car as i mentioned is a weekend toy for racing, shows and some long drives. However my car is a 6 speed so cam selection is a little different since I dont have to match it to a stall on a torque converter.


I would suggest looking around the 228 range and into the 230 range for cams, for the hp you want

remember a cam really alters how a car behaves.. Ive seen many people wish they would have choose a bigger cam, and many others that regret getting a big cam.
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Old May 29, 2011 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LASTOFTHEBREED02T/A
It would definetly be a weekend car, to conserve it better, But I would go on long trips in it occasionally. Like Texas to Cali and back... Would that be an issue?
HP goals... I would like to see my car hit 450-475 one day.
with the 224 or the 228 you can drive it anywhere, and any time with no problems at all....you would love either, but I'll recommend the 228. With a good tune it has almost stock manners, but you can hear you have a cam and when you tromp on the go pedal you can feel it.

But if you have an auto is defineatly do a stall converter first
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Old May 29, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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the OP springs are not as good as comp918s,so he is limited in cam choices..you can check out compcam cam quest for free and try different cams with your combo.contact Damian I think he has a cam that mite work with those springs.
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Originally Posted by garygnu
the OP springs are not as good as comp918s,so he is limited in cam choices..you can check out compcam cam quest for free and try different cams with your combo.contact Damian I think he has a cam that mite work with those springs.
Yeah the valve springs really limit the the cam choice, and size.
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Old May 29, 2011 | 02:56 PM
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Here's a few more:
Crane Cams #1449031, 228/232 112lsa,.551" lift.
Edelbrock #2216, 230/237 110lsa, .540" lift.
Lunati #55007LUN, 230/237 112lsa, 0.544 int./0.543 exh.
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Thank you for All this excellent info guys! Here is the thing, SummitRacing, will take my parts back that i have not installed yet, which is my CAM and Valve springs... So i can get the right size springs for the Cam, in xchange for what i got. So...
Give me your best sugestion in this case???

Thanks again, I was so bumed out at my poor selection, But still got options...
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Old May 29, 2011 | 10:21 PM
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get pac1518 springs if you can.get harden push rods.consider a comp lsr cam .I would recommend a EPS cam.
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I have gave you links to everything you need to make you absolutely ecstatic about your fam setup.

228r cam
pushrods
Springs
Oil pump
Gaskets/bolt kit
Timing chain
Converter with trans cooler

You are making this way way harder than it should be. Call Texas speed and talk to Matt or john.. Tell them you want the 228 cam kit and add an ls2 timing chain and a regular ls6 oil pump along with the basic gasket bolt kit.
Then call a converter company, I recommend ptc, and order a 3600 converter with a trans cooler. They make an amzing, one of the best, converter and you an get that package for under 550 shipped.
I highly recommend buying the pacesetter painted headers with tsp y pipe also.. you can get that with spark plugs and extensions for 450$.. also from Texas speed. Grab a cutout from summit or jegs for 30$.
Get a tune from a sponsor called FROST on here..

That will put a non stop grin on your face... hit your mark, sound awesome, be reliable, etc etc.
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