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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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I currently have stainless works 1 3/4 headers on my car.. Engine is a ls2 with ported heads, 230/238, and a fast... My question is could these headers be holding back some hp? A friend I know put some arh 1 7/8 on his h/c/i ls1 and picked up nothing on the same dyno, but it was almost a year after he was dyno'd the first time. I dont want to spend the $$$ if it doesnt gain much
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:57 AM
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i dont think it would be worth the money if you already own headers.
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It probably wouldn't add much horsepower at this stage, but if you ever plan to put a larger motor in the car they would really shine. We have done some dyno testing and there is a small amount of horsepower to be picked up, but if you already have headers and don't plan on taking the car further it would be a pretty trivial difference in my opinion.
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Bumping this back up. I recently purchased a set of tfs 225 heads and plan on puyting them on when they arrive. All the higher hp ls1/ls2 cars ive seen had 1 7/8 longtubes. If 10 hp could be picked up I believe the swap would be worth it.
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I'm sure they would have to be custom made but the ideal header would
probably be a 1.75" to 1.875" stepped with a nice merge collector. The smaller
tube keeps velocity off the port, the larger flows volume for higher rpms, and
the merge collector helps with average torque throughout.
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 10:56 PM
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I'm with TSP on this one. Gains will be there but minimal at this level.
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Old Dec 24, 2011 | 12:09 AM
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Edelbrock makes or did make a 1 3/4 to 1 7/8 with a 3.5 hvmc. I have them on my car and it seemed to wake the car up at higher rpm's. Seemed to give it a little down low also.
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I've been researching this quite a bit since my H/C/I swap, there's a lot of information on the GTO froums. Just like everyone else has said you might gain a couple HP.... a quality 1 3/4 headers like SW, Kooks, ARH don't really become a restriction until 500rwhp. Every back to back dyno I've read about or seen with everything being equal besides larger primaries have resulted is no gains or 1 or 2 hp. Stepped headers however I pretty much always see a 10rwhp gain all across the curve and maybe a 5rwhp peak gain. But they are $300.00 more than the 1 3/4.
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Maybe 5hp. If lucky
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