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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 09:13 PM
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Hey guys,

This doesn't have to particularly be on an LS1, but any idea where I could find out the average suction pressure generated by automotive engines? I'm trying to find out the pressure of the air entering the intake manifold. I assume it would be a function of the engine's displacement and RPM but I can't find much by searching online.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 09:16 PM
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a vacuum gauge...
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 09:24 PM
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Great idea! Unfortunately, I don't have access to a running vehicle who's owner is willing to let me poke a hole in their manifold for a test.
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 01:08 AM
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For an LS1 you can use EFILive/HPTuners and read the MAP (Manifold Air Pressure) value
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Originally Posted by bluess57
For an LS1 you can use EFILive/HPTuners and read the MAP (Manifold Air Pressure) value
Do you know anywhere these graphs might be available or anyone who would have these graphs for me to look at?
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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At idle, MAP is 35kPa (with stock cam).
At WOT, MAP is 100kPa.

MAP is a function of throttle blade angle and the engines compression ratio/ability.
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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Don't know where there are charts, but, can tell you that @ idle the LS 5.7L MAP is anywhere from 20-60 kPa (near 40 kPa avg.) vacuum up to 92-105 kPa @ WOT. This is dependent upon VE, which is based on several variables.


Just that Joecar had posted when mine displayed. So, mine is redundant.
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Originally Posted by joecar
At idle, MAP is 35kPa (with stock cam).
At WOT, MAP is 100kPa.

MAP is a function of throttle blade angle and the engines compression ratio/ability.
Originally Posted by LS1-450
Don't know where there are charts, but, can tell you that @ idle the LS 5.7L MAP is anywhere from 20-60 kPa (near 40 kPa avg.) vacuum up to 92-105 kPa @ WOT. This is dependent upon VE, which is based on several variables.


Just that Joecar had posted when mine displayed. So, mine is redundant.
Thanks for that information guys, it's much appreciated!

If anyone else has some input and/or graphs, that would help me out a LOT!
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownBoy
Great idea! Unfortunately, I don't have access to a running vehicle who's owner is willing to let me poke a hole in their manifold for a test.
If you're working on a specific LSx engine and want to check its "vacuum heath", then just hook a vacuum gauge up to the high vacuum port that the PCV line connects to (located just behind the throttle body on passenger's side).
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1-450
Don't know where there are charts, but, can tell you that @ idle the LS 5.7L MAP is anywhere from 20-60 kPa (near 40 kPa avg.) vacuum up to 92-105 kPa @ WOT. This is dependent upon VE, which is based on several variables.
Your numbers must be absolute pressure ... if so, then 40 kPa is more vacuum than 105 kPa. It's all in the terminology.

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The readings can vary greatly depending on what the weather is like that day, altitude and how restrictive the intake tract is. A multitude of things influence what the baro is inside an intake. Ideally you would want the 'vacuum' to equal '0' or be equivalent to the atmosphere at WOT (on a naturally aspirated engine at least). At part throttle/low load anywhere from 30-70kPa would seem fairly "normal" for these engines in my experience.

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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Your numbers must be absolute pressure ... if so, then 40 kPa is more vacuum than 105 kPa. It's all in the terminology.

No ****. That's why I went back & was removing the word vacuum from the post. Had incorrectly stated it twice. Was distracted while reviewing the post when I saw that joecar had posted. Typed the comment stating the redundant post & forgot that one. Knew that someone would waist time pickin' @ it.
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Old Sep 15, 2011 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1-450
Knew that someone would waist time pickin' @ it.
Oh well ... that's what being technical is all about.
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