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Old Nov 12, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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I have a friend who is putting my new arp rod bolts in my 5.3 out of a 2003 suburban. He has done several big block builds in the past but this is his first LS type engine. He said to check to see what he needs to do because the arp rod bolts are just a tad longer than the stock and they don't just go into place.

When using the ARP rod bolts with the stock pistons/rods is there some "trick" per se that needs to be done to get them in there?

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Old Nov 12, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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Did you leave the "Dowel pin bolt keepers" in there? - my term.. prob not the real name. Take them out.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 01:43 AM
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in the cap i think there are sleeves that need to be removed
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 02:00 AM
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these are called ferrules. and they need to be removed. pretty much the stock rod bolt needs to be threaded back in at the top, and pull on the head of the bolt with a set of vise grips and you'll see the ferrule.

and I would be careful doing ARP's with a used engine without checking bearing clearances. Katech's should be used if not wanting to check clearances. Sometimes you get away with ARP's. sometimes you dont.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 02:25 AM
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Yep, ferrules are in the way.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 04:25 AM
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If you use the ARP rod bolts you need to resize the rods or probably will spin a bearing....I have seen it happen more than once. Katechs are said to work without any modifications.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 05:03 AM
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Footlead is right... But a lot of people risk-it and get away with it, others spin bearings.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 09:52 AM
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Thanks. That was what I was looking for. Yes, it is the ferrules that are in there. Wasn't sure if you remove them or not.
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Why are you putting rod bolts in a Suburban?
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Originally Posted by KCS
Why are you putting rod bolts in a Suburban?
LOL. Exactly what I was wondering.

Katechs are the best for this type of application. I typically never recommend ARP rod bolts unless the engine and/or bearings are brand new.
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the motor is out of a burb.

i would NOT use arp bolts without replacing the bearings and resizing the rods. if you want to add aftermarket rod bolts without a rebuild, grab some katech rod bolts.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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The engine is out of a suburban. lol The rods are the cracked type. I didn't think you could resize these kinds. The bearings all look new and very low mileage on the engine.

Are you just using a press to get the ferrules out?
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Originally Posted by Wicked69
The engine is out of a suburban. lol The rods are the cracked type. I didn't think you could resize these kinds. The bearings all look new and very low mileage on the engine.

Are you just using a press to get the ferrules out?
Ah ok, gotcha.

Yes you can resize these rods, it's just different than how you would resize a conventional Gen I SBC rod. It's best to at least check the housing bore when you put in the bolts.

I just tapped the bolt out of the cap with a punch and hammer. They're not in there very tight.
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Originally Posted by KCS
Why are you putting rod bolts in a Suburban?
Uhm....... whats wrong with a burb? My friend just had a 496 built for his 3 door burb. 600hp 630 ft lb pump gas motor
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Originally Posted by malibutwins
Uhm....... whats wrong with a burb? My friend just had a 496 built for his 3 door burb. 600hp 630 ft lb pump gas motor
I didn't say there was anything wrong with putting them in a Suburban.
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did everyone miss my post?? LOL
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