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LS1121 01-21-2012 02:52 PM

Pushrod wear
 
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I had 3 like this that came out when I had the Top End done. The car ran great and made no noise at the time. As far as I know the lifters were OK.

gMAG 01-21-2012 03:59 PM

Unable to open the thumbnail.

LS1121 01-21-2012 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by gMAG (Post 15867553)
Unable to open the thumbnail.

That's weird must be the web site. when I go into Edit my post I can see the picture.

dr_whigham 01-21-2012 07:00 PM

I can see the picture just fine.

Were these the new ones or the old ones that came out?

garygnu 01-21-2012 07:06 PM

did you measure them ? how long are they ?

trans_am7935 01-21-2012 07:51 PM

looks like lack of oil. are these the ends that touched the rockers?

gMAG 01-21-2012 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by trans_am7935 (Post 15868278)
looks like lack of oil. are these the ends that touched the rockers?

I see the thumbnail now.
Good question from trans_am7935.
Not sure if you know the orientation of these pushrods. Do you know what number cylinders and whether intake/exhaust side. Are the rods from just one head or the other?
You mentioned that the lifters look good, so perhaps these ends fit the rockers. Otherwise, it would be good to check all of the rockers for associated wear.
Is that some worn metal material on the side of the rod on the right?

LS1121 01-21-2012 09:11 PM

The rockers were fine, it must be where they were in the lifters I did not get those back from my builder. It just seems strange that the ends were worn to a rough machined type state and the engine ran great and no loud ticks. I've never seen anything quite like this have any of you? I put one into the photo with the regular chrome looking end just to show the comparison.

S10xGN 01-22-2012 07:08 PM

Dumb scammer

LS1121 01-22-2012 09:24 PM

yes there is a Problem with this web site. sometimew you can see it sometimes you can't.

gMAG 01-22-2012 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by LS1121 (Post 15872538)
yes there is a Problem with this web site. sometimew you can see it sometimes you can't.

The first time I went to look at the thumbnail, there was no photo. Instead, there was an empty box with a red X.
I think this means that the photo upload had not been captured. Or, the photo was captured, then somehow erased.
Otherwise, I've been able to view the photo each time after the initial try.

wildcamaro 01-22-2012 11:21 PM

Are those three pushrods the same length as the others? That's no good...

Blackbird-WS6 01-22-2012 11:42 PM

link the pic thru photobucket or something along those lines, then everyone should be able to see it

JaxMustang50 06-21-2014 05:51 PM

Bringing this back because I tore into my L33 and found a few that looked the same way. They are worn on the rocker end and are worn shorter than the others The associated rocker cups look the same. Do I need new rockers now?
I'm guessing this is from a lack of adequate oil? Maybe a clogged lifter?
Anyone else had this happen?

george88gta 06-21-2014 05:55 PM

I had the same issue with an all original ls1, with 83k on the clock. The car was dealer maintained ( 7500 mile oil changes). I replaced all the rockers and pushrods, engine was quiet for a while, but the piston slap was just too much for me so I swapped out the LS1 for an LQ4. If I had to guess, I would say it was lack of oiling.

vettenuts 06-21-2014 08:03 PM

I think lack of oil is the culprit. Easy things first. Check the pushrod holes for clogging. If the pushrods are OK and your oil pressure it good, than I would suspect lifters since they pump the oil to the rockers. I would examine all very closely and I would replace the pushrods and mating rocker.

JaxMustang50 06-21-2014 10:48 PM

Unfortunately I haven't run the engine since I bought it. There are no other signs of anything wrong with it internally and it looks like it was maintained fairly well.
The pushrods are all clear internally and the valve tips look good too. It's just excessive wear on the rockers and pushrod tips.
After searching around a bit I have found plenty of others who are reporting this condition but no real conclusions.
I'm torn as to weather I should tear into the motor and replace all the lifters and "freshen" the whole thing up, or replace the pushrods and rockers and run the thing.
Anyone else with this issue resolve it one way of another?

vettenuts 06-22-2014 07:19 AM

I may be remembering things wrong but I seem to recall an issue with where the pushrods were contacting the hole in the top of the head and they were scrubbing on the pushrod cups (can't recall exactly which motor). Try a search on that and see if anything turns up. This was a factory issue as I remember and several had run into it. Do you have any evidence of pushrod contact along its length?

JaxMustang50 06-22-2014 08:38 AM

I'm 99% sure I didn't notice any side scuffing or wear. Ill double check in a few days when I get back in town.
Thanks for the help.

RonSSNova 06-22-2014 12:25 PM

Saw the same issue on an 08 Yukon 5.3 that we were replacing a bad DOD lifter on.
Diff cylinder than the failed lifter.

Had one the same on my L33 as mentioned.

Just cheap parts I think. Sometimes they fail.


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