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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 01:20 AM
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what cam specs would yield a cam that displayed no bucking/surging with a stock converter (ls1 f-body), yet would still generate pathetic power until 5000 rpm, peak at 6100-6300, then fall of fast. I guess it doesn't really have to fall that fast after peak, but it would be best if it did. This thread's more for entertainment, but might have some technical use (if you have a stupid ricer friend with an ls1 who wants the ULTIMATE cam). The peak power would have to be respectable to trick the silly little ricer into thinking the cam was desirable, as would the manners with stock converter. What I'm really looking for is:
peak power
good manners (no surging/bucking)
minimized area under the curve
and MAYBE good throttle response. since this one's related to DCR, which also increases area under the curve, I'm okay if good throttle response can't be achieved.

I originally thought about asking Pat G, but realized he'd simply laugh at me and go about his business. It's unfortunate that it requires someone with good understanding of valve events to correctly answer this question.

Anyway, feel free to comment, bash, etc.
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 01:27 AM
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Is this a joke?
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Sir

I originally thought about asking Pat G, but realized he'd simply laugh at me and go about his business. It's unfortunate that it requires someone with good understanding of valve events to correctly answer this question.

Anyway, feel free to comment, bash, etc.
so why the hell would you ask us????

it doesn't matter who it is, i wouldn't intentionally set a person up for failure
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 01:45 AM
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so why the hell would you ask us????

it doesn't matter who it is, i wouldn't intentionally set a person up for failure
Maybe I'm an *** hole... There are plenty of people I would do this to.

**Disclaimer... Not to someone I have an argument with on here and then answer one of their questions.
I'm talking people I know personally in life that have pulled some things on me. If I had a chance, I would do it and laugh the entire time when they run 14.XX @ 101mph cam only. I know plenty of ex "friends" that deserve this.
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lemons12

**Disclaimer... Not to someone I have an argument with on here and then answer one of their questions.
I'm talking people I know personally in life that have pulled some things on me. If I had a chance, I would do it and laugh the entire time when they run 14.XX @ 101mph cam only. I know plenty of ex "friends" that deserve this.


LOL!!!!....still fucked up...
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by trans_am7935
LOL!!!!....still fucked up...
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Is this a joke?
...no. I genuinely want to know if this is possible.

Originally Posted by trans_am7935
so why the hell would you ask us????

it doesn't matter who it is, i wouldn't intentionally set a person up for failure
I didn't have anyone in mind, the ricer part is just one of many creative uses for you, the people. This thread was more a product of curiosity, and the lack of capability to spec such a cam myself.
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 01:57 AM
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ok here is an example, 243 intake/ 202 exhaust .624/.498 108LSA that could do your job

LSL lobe intake, stock lobe exhaust
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 01:59 AM
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Why thank you. Anyone else?
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 02:02 AM
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A 248/ 263 .710/.736 on a 98.3758lsa and one of those hard to find pristine ls1 intakes (98) is the best....also need to swap out the stock MAP sensor for a Corvette MAP. (15 extra HP right there). Then swap the stock exhaust manifolds for the 01 truck manifolds.....don't worry, the computer can read the o2 sensors and adjust everything...no need to waste you money on one those dumb tune things.

It might buck a little at first, but give it a few hundred miles and the computer will fix it so it smooths out
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 02:03 AM
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First time you turned the key.... The pistons would move about .0005" and be dead.
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 02:04 AM
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how about a 260 and 670 plus lift intake and exhaust on a stock ls1 with a stock intake it would never reach its power band LOL
nor would it ever idle worth a damn and if on a auto car it would be hell to drive
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 02:08 AM
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...somehow I figured the thread would drift in this general direction. Well, keep em coming anyway.
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Have someone re grind a stock cam and give it about a 106 lsa and add some duration.

Or you could take his car and just pull a vacuum line so it sounds like a sweet cam.
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 02:18 AM
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Silly question, silly answers.
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or you could pull a coil pack plug...sounds sweet for a 4 banger
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Give him a hotcam...sounds much bigger than it is, will give enough seat of the pants feel to make him think he is really fast, but not near as much as he thinks, and will work with a stock stall.
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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take a look at comp cams camquest to find a cam that mite meet you need.or get a mild TSP or thunder racing cam pkg .
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mark21742
A 248/ 263 .710/.736 on a 98.3758lsa and one of those hard to find pristine ls1 intakes (98) is the best....also need to swap out the stock MAP sensor for a Corvette MAP. (15 extra HP right there). Then swap the stock exhaust manifolds for the 01 truck manifolds.....don't worry, the computer can read the o2 sensors and adjust everything...no need to waste you money on one those dumb tune things.

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