MS4 with trickflow 215cc
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i have this combo my man. and let em tell you car pulls hard.......
you have to do alot of homework on the piston to valve clearance
and custom pushrods had to be ordered for me to get the set up right.
read my sig and you can see my combo.
I havent been to the track yet... but im pretty fast.... for a heads and cam combo.
you have to do alot of homework on the piston to valve clearance
and custom pushrods had to be ordered for me to get the set up right.
read my sig and you can see my combo.
I havent been to the track yet... but im pretty fast.... for a heads and cam combo.
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What are the cam specs as I am not familiar with that cam? I may be able to give you a very good idea of what kind of power you can expect.
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I believe the MS4 is a 239/242 .649/.609 which is alittle bigger then my Tsunami cam. I'm also looking at heads for my cam
Last edited by corvetteandsilverado; May 14, 2012 at 03:04 PM. Reason: wrong wording
I'm guessing your feel this way because you have one with no facts to back it? they are vary close to the same only thing is the torque curve for the tsunami kicks in sooner. Also many tuners think the MS4 is hard to tune but thank you for your opinion in the situation still doesn't help decide on a set of heads
Yes I meant to say the Tsunami is smaller but not by much. The tsunami I believe is only offered with a 111 lsa and both cams need good tuning for drive ability. Both are good cams but no need to say one is better then the other was my point. The tsunami is a 235/240 .648/.609 and the MS4 is a 239/242 .649/.609. Still trying to find the best heads and set-up for the most power.
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Ok I need more information. Stock bottom end? If not what cubic inch and what is the compression? What TFS head are you using 215 or 225cc?
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Depending on the compression and cubic inch I would suspect you to be around 575 to 580 at the crank using a set of 225cc heads. Of course that is a guestimate but I think it would be in that ball park very easily.
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I'm guessing your feel this way because you have one with no facts to back it? they are vary close to the same only thing is the torque curve for the tsunami kicks in sooner. Also many tuners think the MS4 is hard to tune but thank you for your opinion in the situation still doesn't help decide on a set of heads
So I would expect an aftermarket casting like Trick Flows or TSPs PRCs with the MS4 + the bigger FAST102 to give at least 475 RWHP thru a stalled 12 bolt.
Last edited by NC98Z; May 15, 2012 at 01:35 PM.
Oh we have the facts to back it. I can email you the dyno sheet or 1/4 mile times. But you can't expect a set of Stage 2.5 243s to perform as well as a set of Trick Flows or TSPs PRC's. You get what you pay for. But I make 444.99 RWHP/394.56 ft# torque and run 11.20s at 120 MPH in the 1/4 thru a stalled 12 bolt. And if you took out your Tsunami out and installed a MS4 in its place I doubt you would see more that 5 RWHP difference between to two.
So I would expect an aftermarket casting like Trick Flows or TSPs PRCs with the MS4 + the bigger FAST102 to give at least 475 RWHP thru a stalled 12 bolt.
So I would expect an aftermarket casting like Trick Flows or TSPs PRCs with the MS4 + the bigger FAST102 to give at least 475 RWHP thru a stalled 12 bolt.
dont forget the PRC 227 heads. they were setup for max effort small bore applications & we can get you a 59cc chamber while still having p/v for the ms4,ms3, or tsunami.
With 330+cfm capability from a 3.9" bore cylinder head the prc 227 head is hard to beat on these small bore applications.
We recently did a ls2 car that made 500rwhp with the Tsunami & 227s with a stock ls2 intake manifold!!
With 330+cfm capability from a 3.9" bore cylinder head the prc 227 head is hard to beat on these small bore applications.
We recently did a ls2 car that made 500rwhp with the Tsunami & 227s with a stock ls2 intake manifold!!
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dont forget the PRC 227 heads. they were setup for max effort small bore applications & we can get you a 59cc chamber while still having p/v for the ms4,ms3, or tsunami.
With 330+cfm capability from a 3.9" bore cylinder head the prc 227 head is hard to beat on these small bore applications.
We recently did a ls2 car that made 500rwhp with the Tsunami & 227s with a stock ls2 intake manifold!!
With 330+cfm capability from a 3.9" bore cylinder head the prc 227 head is hard to beat on these small bore applications.
We recently did a ls2 car that made 500rwhp with the Tsunami & 227s with a stock ls2 intake manifold!!