chris20516

Does anyone have any expereince with an MS4 with Trickflows and a Fast 102? I already have the cam and looking at adding this to the combo.

Ws6kid.

i have this combo my man. and let em tell you car pulls hard.......
you have to do alot of homework on the piston to valve clearance
and custom pushrods had to be ordered for me to get the set up right.
read my sig and you can see my combo.
I havent been to the track yet... but im pretty fast.... for a heads and cam combo.

Ws6kid.

i do recommend to mill the heads tho i did drop the compression with the pistons but its ok with me since i am kicking a 175 shot of dope.

chris20516

What kind of power did it put down? Im looking at doing it with a fast 102.

VandykeT/A

My full weight WS6 traps 120 hitting the rev limiter in 3rd gear granny shifting with my PRC 215s and I would imagine them making almost identical power.

Ws6kid.

im not sure i work 7 days out of the week for the moment. so i havent had time to dyno my car. but im assuming im pushing 450+.
With out spray. ( i got a 175 shot direct port on the car).

TrickFlowTech

What are the cam specs as I am not familiar with that cam? I may be able to give you a very good idea of what kind of power you can expect.

DaFireMan

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239/242 649/609 are the ms4 specs from texas speed. I have a forged motor with a 239/247 624/624 114+4 cam looking to buy heads, what kind of power can i expect

corvetteandsilverado

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I believe the MS4 is a 239/242 .649/.609 which is alittle bigger then my Tsunami cam. I'm also looking at heads for my cam

NC98Z

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Tsunami< MS4 for sure!

corvetteandsilverado

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I'm guessing your feel this way because you have one with no facts to back it? they are vary close to the same only thing is the torque curve for the tsunami kicks in sooner. Also many tuners think the MS4 is hard to tune but thank you for your opinion in the situation still doesn't help decide on a set of heads

BrntWS6

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Isn't the Tsunami a 235/240? MS4 is slightly bigger. Both have a high lift and a 111 lsa so street tuning is a must for decent driveability on either.

corvetteandsilverado

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Yes I meant to say the Tsunami is smaller but not by much. The tsunami I believe is only offered with a 111 lsa and both cams need good tuning for drive ability. Both are good cams but no need to say one is better then the other was my point. The tsunami is a 235/240 .648/.609 and the MS4 is a 239/242 .649/.609. Still trying to find the best heads and set-up for the most power.

TransamGCS

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i have ms4 and prc 215 no p to v issues and 102 fast intake, pulls like a freight train and very streetable with a good tune

TrickFlowTech

Ok I need more information. Stock bottom end? If not what cubic inch and what is the compression? What TFS head are you using 215 or 225cc?

TrickFlowTech

Depending on the compression and cubic inch I would suspect you to be around 575 to 580 at the crank using a set of 225cc heads. Of course that is a guestimate but I think it would be in that ball park very easily.

NC98Z

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Oh we have the facts to back it. I can email you the dyno sheet or 1/4 mile times. But you can't expect a set of Stage 2.5 243s to perform as well as a set of Trick Flows or TSPs PRC's. You get what you pay for. But I make 444.99 RWHP/394.56 ft# torque and run 11.20s at 120 MPH in the 1/4 thru a stalled 12 bolt. And if you took out your Tsunami out and installed a MS4 in its place I doubt you would see more that 5 RWHP difference between to two.
So I would expect an aftermarket casting like Trick Flows or TSPs PRCs with the MS4 + the bigger FAST102 to give at least 475 RWHP thru a stalled 12 bolt.

corvetteandsilverado

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I'm not saying you don't have the facts to back it up but these cams are so close its more personal preference. Your car makes good power and runs strong. I still unfamiliar with heads and what would be the best set-up, I talked to texas-speed and they did say I would make more power through a set of trick flow or PRC's. I make 420wrhp cam only and I'm shooting for 485 with heads and FAST.

Jason 98 TA

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dont forget the PRC 227 heads. they were setup for max effort small bore applications & we can get you a 59cc chamber while still having p/v for the ms4,ms3, or tsunami.

With 330+cfm capability from a 3.9" bore cylinder head the prc 227 head is hard to beat on these small bore applications.

We recently did a ls2 car that made 500rwhp with the Tsunami & 227s with a stock ls2 intake manifold!!

98blueSScamaro

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At what lift is it flowing that CFM????