Head milling question, 5.3 with 853's
Head milling question, 5.3 with 853's I have a 5.3, supposed to have 130K. My 5.3 has 706's and I'd like to get rid of them before they crack and start leaking.
I have a pair of 853's from a LS1 I'd like to put on the 5.3. I know I'll loose some compression, but I can have the heads milled for free.
How much would I need to take off of these heads to get back to stock 9.5:1? Could I take a little more off and get 10:1? I'm worried about bending valves if I ever decide to swap cams. My 5.3 has dished pistons.
I read somewhere that you need to mill around .005 to get 1cc back, so from my logic I'd need to mill .040 off to get back to 9.5:1. Is that anywhere near right?
Thanks for the help guys!
I have a pair of 853's from a LS1 I'd like to put on the 5.3. I know I'll loose some compression, but I can have the heads milled for free.
How much would I need to take off of these heads to get back to stock 9.5:1? Could I take a little more off and get 10:1? I'm worried about bending valves if I ever decide to swap cams. My 5.3 has dished pistons.
I read somewhere that you need to mill around .005 to get 1cc back, so from my logic I'd need to mill .040 off to get back to 9.5:1. Is that anywhere near right?
Thanks for the help guys!
853's=66.67
706's=61.15
5.52cc difference.
5.52x.007"=.03864cc
So about .039" milled will get you back to a 706 head compression.
706's=61.15
5.52cc difference.
5.52x.007"=.03864cc
So about .039" milled will get you back to a 706 head compression.
Last edited by dgcustomz; Sep 8, 2012 at 02:07 PM.
853 specs
Combustion Chamber Volume: 66.67cc
Intake Port Volume: 200cc
Exhaust Port Volume: 70cc
Intake Valve Diameter: 2.00 inches
Exhaust Valve Diameter: 1.55 inches
Stock Head Flow Numbers
Chamber 66.67 cc------0.100--0.200---0.300---0.400---0.500---0.550--0.600
Intake 200 cc------------67----122-----178-----215-----219-----223---227
Exhaust 70 cc------------52-----97-----133-----156-----170-----76----180
706 Specs
Combustion Chamber Volume: 61.15cc
Intake Port Volume: 200cc
Exhaust Port Volume: 70cc
Intake Valve Diameter: 1.89 inches
Exhaust Valve Diameter: 1.55 inches
Stock Head Flow Numbers
Chamber 61.15 cc----0.100--0.200--0.300-- 0.400--0.500---0.550---0.600
Intake 200 cc----------63 ---128----179-----210----218----221-----226
Exhaust 70 cc----------54 -- 93 ----121----145-----163----168----174
Intake valve is the only thing that is different on the heads other than the cc's, you can see the small increase in flow from the bigger intake valve on the 853.
Combustion Chamber Volume: 66.67cc
Intake Port Volume: 200cc
Exhaust Port Volume: 70cc
Intake Valve Diameter: 2.00 inches
Exhaust Valve Diameter: 1.55 inches
Stock Head Flow Numbers
Chamber 66.67 cc------0.100--0.200---0.300---0.400---0.500---0.550--0.600
Intake 200 cc------------67----122-----178-----215-----219-----223---227
Exhaust 70 cc------------52-----97-----133-----156-----170-----76----180
706 Specs
Combustion Chamber Volume: 61.15cc
Intake Port Volume: 200cc
Exhaust Port Volume: 70cc
Intake Valve Diameter: 1.89 inches
Exhaust Valve Diameter: 1.55 inches
Stock Head Flow Numbers
Chamber 61.15 cc----0.100--0.200--0.300-- 0.400--0.500---0.550---0.600
Intake 200 cc----------63 ---128----179-----210----218----221-----226
Exhaust 70 cc----------54 -- 93 ----121----145-----163----168----174
Intake valve is the only thing that is different on the heads other than the cc's, you can see the small increase in flow from the bigger intake valve on the 853.
Hey, I was closer than I expected on how much I needed to mill!
I wasn't expecting much of a gain with the heads alone, but I figure if I get them ported the larger valve would be an extra bonus. I wouldn't have to worry about cracking castecks either...
Would I have PTV problems milling .039 with something like a .600 lift?
Thanks for the help guys!
I wasn't expecting much of a gain with the heads alone, but I figure if I get them ported the larger valve would be an extra bonus. I wouldn't have to worry about cracking castecks either...
Would I have PTV problems milling .039 with something like a .600 lift?
Thanks for the help guys!
Dang, so I would have to buy a cam and try it to see if it would work? Seems expensive and time consuming, more work than these 853's are worth lol I guess I'll hold off on a cam till I can afford nice ported 5.3 heads.
Has anyone ever milled 853's 40 thou for a stock 5.3? Surly I won't have PTV clearance there right?
I've tried searching for this stuff, but all I seem to find is 5.3 heads replacing 853's on an ls1. Not sure how to word my search different to find what I'm looking for. Someone has to of tried this before!
Has anyone ever milled 853's 40 thou for a stock 5.3? Surly I won't have PTV clearance there right?
I've tried searching for this stuff, but all I seem to find is 5.3 heads replacing 853's on an ls1. Not sure how to word my search different to find what I'm looking for. Someone has to of tried this before!
