231/237 or G5X-3
04-08-2004, 09:25 PM
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231/237 or G5X-3 Hey everyone
I will be building a new motor for my car, and was wondering what cam to go with. I have heard alot of good things regarding the TSP cam, and also with the G5X-3 cam. I know its a newbie quest., but what is the specs on the G5X-3 cam?
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Joe
I will be building a new motor for my car, and was wondering what cam to go with. I have heard alot of good things regarding the TSP cam, and also with the G5X-3 cam. I know its a newbie quest., but what is the specs on the G5X-3 cam?
Thanks,
Joe
04-08-2004, 09:48 PM
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The specs on the X3 are still unreleased to the public, although a few of us know. 
When comparing the 2 cams, there really nothing alike. The X-3 is much more severe on the valvetrain due to faster ramp rates, and the TSP is on a much "softer" ramp rate which will be easy on the valvetrain. When it comes down to it, the X-3 will make better power "under curve" due to the faster rate getting the valve open sooner. It will also make better peak because it is a bit bigger than the 231/237. When it comes down to it, do you want mild or wild?
When comparing the 2 cams, there really nothing alike. The X-3 is much more severe on the valvetrain due to faster ramp rates, and the TSP is on a much "softer" ramp rate which will be easy on the valvetrain. When it comes down to it, the X-3 will make better power "under curve" due to the faster rate getting the valve open sooner. It will also make better peak because it is a bit bigger than the 231/237. When it comes down to it, do you want mild or wild?
04-08-2004, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
The specs on the X3 are still unreleased to the public, although a few of us know. When comparing the 2 cams, there really nothing alike. The X-3 is much more severe on the valvetrain due to faster ramp rates, and the TSP is on a much "softer" ramp rate which will be easy on the valvetrain. When it comes down to it, the X-3 will make better power "under curve" due to the faster rate getting the valve open sooner. It will also make better peak because it is a bit bigger than the 231/237. When it comes down to it, do you want mild or wild?
When comparing the 2 cams, there really nothing alike. The X-3 is much more severe on the valvetrain due to faster ramp rates, and the TSP is on a much "softer" ramp rate which will be easy on the valvetrain. When it comes down to it, the X-3 will make better power "under curve" due to the faster rate getting the valve open sooner. It will also make better peak because it is a bit bigger than the 231/237. When it comes down to it, do you want mild or wild?
04-08-2004, 10:36 PM
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The X-3 on a 112 will require flycutting your pistons. The 114 on the other hand is as tight as you can go on P/V clearence without cutting. If the heads are milled any at all, either cam will require fly cutting. The Patriot LS-6 style will compliment the cam very well. You won't have to have the heads"rebuilt". You will, on the other hand, have to change springs more often. Prolly about every 15,000 miles or so. The springs the Patriot's come with are also the exact spring you would want for this application.
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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
The X-3 on a 112 will require flycutting your pistons. The 114 on the other hand is as tight as you can go on P/V clearence without cutting. If the heads are milled any at all, either cam will require fly cutting. The Patriot LS-6 style will compliment the cam very well. You won't have to have the heads"rebuilt". You will, on the other hand, have to change springs more often. Prolly about every 15,000 miles or so. The springs the Patriot's come with are also the exact spring you would want for this application.
Now forgive my ignorance but how hard is it to replace the springs?? And is that with all hard running or not?? I tend to be soft most of the time when not racing
04-08-2004, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
The X-3 on a 112 will require flycutting your pistons. The 114 on the other hand is as tight as you can go on P/V clearence without cutting. If the heads are milled any at all, either cam will require fly cutting. The Patriot LS-6 style will compliment the cam very well. You won't have to have the heads"rebuilt". You will, on the other hand, have to change springs more often. Prolly about every 15,000 miles or so. The springs the Patriot's come with are also the exact spring you would want for this application.
Thnks for the info
04-09-2004, 09:22 AM
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Our 231/237 cam has and will clear on heads cut .010" with stock, uncut pistons. Granted it's a tighter squeeze, but it clears enough for even a 6 speed car to feel comfortable. With this cam and the "Gold" series springs on your heads, you should be able to run 25,000 give or take before needing to check the spring pressures. Give us a call if you have any other questions about your cam selection
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04-09-2004, 10:24 AM
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Thanks for the info
Now forgive my ignorance but how hard is it to replace the springs?? And is that with all hard running or not?? I tend to be soft most of the time when not racing
Now forgive my ignorance but how hard is it to replace the springs?? And is that with all hard running or not?? I tend to be soft most of the time when not racing
04-09-2004, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
The spring getting weaker has to do with the style of lobe itsself. If the car is running, it's hard on the valvetrain. Granted you might get a couple extra thousand miles if you are easier on them, but t is still rough. A spring swap is pretty easy if you have the right tools. The tool from MORE performance is showing to be the best as far as ease of use and price. Just pull the plugs, rotate whichever cylinder you are working on to TDC, and use the tool to pull then reinstall the springs. The TSP cam is better if you do not want to have to mess with any of this. You'll make a bit less across the board, but you have no maintnence either.
