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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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I installed a 228R cam in my 2000 LS1, I have all the aftermarket goodies
From FIPK, P/P Stock MAF, Jentzer TB, Weiland/ Holley intake, 160 Thermo.
underdrive pulley,PaceSetters Headers W/cats and 3" FlowMaster Exhaust ETC.....
Anyway when I start my car after it has been setting for a few days, It has a hard time starting and it has a rich smelling smoke, for a few seconds.. BUT I did not drill the air hole in the butterfly at all..If I need to what size bit.. Also my computer was mail ordered thru MMS.. Is there anything I can do about the the cold start up and the smoke.. Any advice on this matter will be greatly Appreciated..
Thanks and God Bless our Troops and the U.S., John Junkins jwcej@pennswoods.net Cell# 1-304-790-3153
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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If I'm in the wrong section.. Could a mod.. PLEASE move me..
I Really need help with this matter...
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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Rich at cold startup is typical of a large cam. You need to scale your VE Table (400rpm, 800rpm, 1200rpm) by a value less than 100% to decrease the table values. This should combat your rich condition and get you started up easier. P.s. You will need edit or hptuners software to accomplish this.
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SloppyRob, Can you do this???? I tried to get in contact with MMS and all I get is a recording.. I leave a message but no return calls , I really need to get it fixed .. Let me know ... jwcej@pennswoods.net
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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 06:10 AM
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John, put your stock maf ends back on. Drill the t/b one size bigger than stock. Also, for a cam that size, it is common for what you are experirncing. After the changes, make sure to do the pcm relearn thing, and go for a drive. On a side note, look at my sig for the power the B1 cam you sold me made, without a pulley or tuning!!! Peace, and God bless, Victor
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Victor, THANKS!!! Good to hear from you again.. I will give it a try.. BUT the stock MAF I had P/P is the only one I have.. And the HP and TQ number you posted are great.. Keep in touch.. jwcej@pennswoods.net
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Would I still need to drill the TB Blade, if I have the program to idle at 900 RPM.. Or Would it help if I put my orginal PCM back in , with stock programming.. Any help would be greatly appreciated..
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If any one can help me program my orginal PCM, I will give them my MMS programmed PCM..
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