Oil - what'r you using?
First, EPA requires oils meet the SI specification,
If it's on the market and sold to the public, wouldn't you think that those oils also have to confirm to the EPA SI specifications (vs. SL that the LS1 was based around)?
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ThunderStruck507 - I actually went to autozone (based on your input here) during lunch and they had one of those oil change deals on the German Castrol. it was the only oil that they stocked that I would consider after this discussion, and at 30 bucks for 5 quarts and a filter I couldnt pass it up. Sucks they make you buy a fram extragard or whatever filter though. I grabbed one of those for my truck and then bought a Delco for the TA.
The German Castrol Oil sitting here in my house conforms to SL. SI is the new standard. It says so clearly on the back of the bottle (SL, SJ).
VR1 - I don't have any of it with me in my office, so I can't check it. I think it's exempt, because it's a race oil. I wouldn't get the black bottle, the not street legal. No detergents. And the synthetic is no better but is twice as much.
The German Castrol is made in Germany, so it conforms with mostly Euro specs and just happens to meet SL specs of America. It comes in a black bottle and is labeled Syntec European Formula. It is 4.99/qt at AutoZone all the time (at least here).
VR1 is $61 for a case of 12 on Amazon (Get pn# VV205).
VR1 - I don't have any of it with me in my office, so I can't check it. I think it's exempt, because it's a race oil. I wouldn't get the black bottle, the not street legal. No detergents. And the synthetic is no better but is twice as much.
The German Castrol is made in Germany, so it conforms with mostly Euro specs and just happens to meet SL specs of America. It comes in a black bottle and is labeled Syntec European Formula. It is 4.99/qt at AutoZone all the time (at least here).
VR1 is $61 for a case of 12 on Amazon (Get pn# VV205).
Yeah I'm a little confused about this too. JakeFusion, any insight here? I guess another pertinent question would be exactly what are those standards? What is included in each of them?
ThunderStruck507 - I actually went to autozone (based on your input here) during lunch and they had one of those oil change deals on the German Castrol. it was the only oil that they stocked that I would consider after this discussion, and at 30 bucks for 5 quarts and a filter I couldnt pass it up. Sucks they make you buy a fram extragard or whatever filter though. I grabbed one of those for my truck and then bought a Delco for the TA.
ThunderStruck507 - I actually went to autozone (based on your input here) during lunch and they had one of those oil change deals on the German Castrol. it was the only oil that they stocked that I would consider after this discussion, and at 30 bucks for 5 quarts and a filter I couldnt pass it up. Sucks they make you buy a fram extragard or whatever filter though. I grabbed one of those for my truck and then bought a Delco for the TA.
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yes they are sold on the shelf, but here is the description.....
Valvoline VR1 10w-30 Synthetic Racing Motor Oil - 1 Quart, (Pack of 6)
by Valvoline
ZDDP additive provides tough anti-wear protection
High zinc/phosphorus for extreme anti-wear including flat tappets
Enhanced with friction modifiers to improve horsepower
For use in any car, light truck, van, or SUV where API "SL" is recommended; recommended for engines burning gasoline and full or partial alcohol fuels in track and street service
Is the term "racing" just marketing BS?
Valvoline VR1 10w-30 Synthetic Racing Motor Oil - 1 Quart, (Pack of 6)
by Valvoline
ZDDP additive provides tough anti-wear protection
High zinc/phosphorus for extreme anti-wear including flat tappets
Enhanced with friction modifiers to improve horsepower
For use in any car, light truck, van, or SUV where API "SL" is recommended; recommended for engines burning gasoline and full or partial alcohol fuels in track and street service
Is the term "racing" just marketing BS?
yes they are sold on the shelf, but here is the description.....
Valvoline VR1 10w-30 Synthetic Racing Motor Oil - 1 Quart, (Pack of 6)
by Valvoline
ZDDP additive provides tough anti-wear protection
High zinc/phosphorus for extreme anti-wear including flat tappets
Enhanced with friction modifiers to improve horsepower
For use in any car, light truck, van, or SUV where API "SL" is recommended; recommended for engines burning gasoline and full or partial alcohol fuels in track and street service
Is the term "racing" just marketing BS?
Valvoline VR1 10w-30 Synthetic Racing Motor Oil - 1 Quart, (Pack of 6)
by Valvoline
ZDDP additive provides tough anti-wear protection
High zinc/phosphorus for extreme anti-wear including flat tappets
Enhanced with friction modifiers to improve horsepower
For use in any car, light truck, van, or SUV where API "SL" is recommended; recommended for engines burning gasoline and full or partial alcohol fuels in track and street service
Is the term "racing" just marketing BS?
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Verdad Gallardo yes they are sold on the shelf, but here is the description.....
Valvoline VR1 10w-30 Synthetic Racing Motor Oil - 1 Quart, (Pack of 6)
by Valvoline
ZDDP additive provides tough anti-wear protection
High zinc/phosphorus for extreme anti-wear including flat tappets
Enhanced with friction modifiers to improve horsepower
For use in any car, light truck, van, or SUV where API "SL" is recommended; recommended for engines burning gasoline and full or partial alcohol fuels in track and street service
Is the term "racing" just marketing BS?
Valvoline VR1 10w-30 Synthetic Racing Motor Oil - 1 Quart, (Pack of 6)
by Valvoline
ZDDP additive provides tough anti-wear protection
High zinc/phosphorus for extreme anti-wear including flat tappets
Enhanced with friction modifiers to improve horsepower
For use in any car, light truck, van, or SUV where API "SL" is recommended; recommended for engines burning gasoline and full or partial alcohol fuels in track and street service
Is the term "racing" just marketing BS?
I think alot of is. Some of the oils contain additives that are not environmentally friendy and also damages cats and oxygen sensors. If that is the case, there no way they will be API certified.
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I dont mean is the oil itself BS, i mean is the term racing? Like maybe a little over the top.... like when performance parts are called "racing" but they are just upgrades over stock - you know? "racing" spark plug wires... "racing" radiator cap.... "
That's probably true. The NSL VR1 is a race oil.
Also, oils like German Castrol that are SL vs SI oils, would still take like 100k miles to damage cats. But that's one of the reasons for the change per EPA.
I'm running no cats, so I don't care. LOL
Also, oils like German Castrol that are SL vs SI oils, would still take like 100k miles to damage cats. But that's one of the reasons for the change per EPA.
I'm running no cats, so I don't care. LOL
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Last weekend I changed the old but still golden in appearance 5-30 Mobil 1 and Fram extra guard that the last owner was running with the German Castrol and a Delco filter. Nice bump in oil pressure, not that that is always good but I like it.
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Mobil Delvac 15W-40 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil, it was the cheapest ha, and as of 5000 miles later the oil is still clear, looks like new, had Royal Purple HPS, but it aerated too easy at high rpm. perhaps it was do to it being too thin 5-20 maybe that doesn't happen with thicker Royal Purple HPS, idk, but if driven under 3000rpm check dip-stick, no bubbles on the stick, but hit 6700rpm a few times and the dip-stick was covered in aerated oil.. didn't want to spend the big money on Royal Purple HPS again for a heavier weight, if then it would turn out the same way, so got me some Mobil Delvac 15W-40 Heavy Duty Diesel Oil, from my brother who drives an 18wheeler, and ever since, iv been using it.. 
good stuff
good stuff 
I ran Mobile 1 in my built 496 chevelle, and i was planning on running that in my built 408 camaro. My dad used to use Mobile 1 in all his race cars, so naturally i started to use it in my cars.
Scheaffer's Oil. Micron Moly SAE40 Racing Oil. Zinc content is 2300ppm and oil is moly based. Best oil on the market only thing comparable is the Brad Penn line of oils.
Any avid reader of bobtheoilguy I'm sure has seen the UOA's associated with scheaffer's. The results speak for themselves.
Any avid reader of bobtheoilguy I'm sure has seen the UOA's associated with scheaffer's. The results speak for themselves.
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I'm thinking about changing to Royal Purple 5w30... any good feedback on this from anyone who has or currently using it?? I don't think there is much difference or a "better" synthetic oil out... be pretty hard to beat Mobile 1... but hey, I'll take that chance in being proved wrong!
