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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 03:28 PM
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What kind of MPG were you getting out of that cam?
Predator-z, if I were to get 99Bluz28's recommended cam with a ls2 timing chain/gear set would I be ok to line them up Dot to Dot? I'm trying to make sure I do everything correct the first time so I don't have to do it again. So sorry for all the questions guys I'm still learning.
Ideally, you should degree the cam. That being said, many guys around here just line em up and go. Not saying that's that right way of doing it though.
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 04:03 PM
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I mean if degreeing is only to verify that your cam grind is as it should be.... how often is it not? Is the manufacturing process of cams bad enough that we can't really rely on the grind?
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 04:11 PM
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Frost would be my first option of who to take the car too, but seeing he is over 6 hours away that is out of the question. I'm looking to order the cam and all of the parts this week guys. Got a new job this week so not exactly sure when it'll get put it. Talked to TSP today and he suggested the 228R to me, but said the Torquer V2 would do fine. I'm having a horrible time trying to decide on the cam! Lol, there is one thing that has me worried about installing the cam though; that being degreeing it. Wouldn't you just line up the timing marks to install it? Making sure the engine is at TDC?


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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by darkvader0
I mean if degreeing is only to verify that your cam grind is as it should be.... how often is it not? Is the manufacturing process of cams bad enough that we can't really rely on the grind?
Depends on who is grinding it. i have told many customers to get cams verified. Granted we are talking SR 500+ CI stuff.
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by darkvader0
I mean if degreeing is only to verify that your cam grind is as it should be.... how often is it not? Is the manufacturing process of cams bad enough that we can't really rely on the grind?
Its not just the cam that you have to factor in. There are tolerances in all machining processes. Its not likely but lets just say your cam, timing set, and crank keyway are all 1.5 degrees off in the same direction. Your ICL would be 4.5 degrees off. This is probably not going to happen but if it did you would be pulling your hair out wandering why the car doesn't run like it should.

I've never had one that was much more than a degree off but it is a good idea to check.

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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 10:06 PM
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Well guys I went ahead and made the move drained my bank account and ordered the parts. I ended up going with the custom cam recomended by 99Bluz28 (thanks by the way man) LSL 227 intake lobs and LXL 230 exhaust lobes on a 111lsa with a ICL of 108.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 02:49 AM
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Well guys I went ahead and made the move drained my bank account and ordered the parts. I ended up going with the custom cam recomended by 99Bluz28 (thanks by the way man) LSL 227 intake lobs and LXL 230 exhaust lobes on a 111lsa with a ICL of 108.
It's a nice cam, an it's fairly quiet. Mine peaks about 6100rpm, an I can drive it all day long and never need to take it above 3000rpm, even in traffic.
Enjoy!
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 02:52 AM
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Yeah good choice for street cam
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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Thanks for the help so far guys, I'll keep you guys posted. Might even snap a few pics when I put it in. 99bluz28 you need post up a video of that cam idling, the wait is gonna kill me!
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 11:29 PM
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Okay, here's the video/audio clip I shot tonight, idle is currently at 950rpm.
BTW my car is what I would consider fairly quiet for having H/C/I, ORY-pipe an LT headers.
http://s523.photobucket.com/user/RDB...043c3.mp4.html

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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 02:01 PM
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It sounds good. Idle isn't as choppy as I would have expected but I'd say if the idle was set to 800RPM it would be.
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 02:39 PM
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I'm also running two mufflers on it, a Borla (round 5") XR1 3.5" in/out in the I-pipe and a Magnaflow (oval) race series 3.5" in/out in the stock location.
With a lower idle and your SLP LM exhaust you'll hear it a lot more clearly.
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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OP, did you already order the oil pump? If not, you can get the melling 10296 for about $25 dollars more and IIRC, it flows about 8% more volume. If you already ordered, the 10295 would also work just fine though.
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Old Jun 8, 2013 | 01:21 PM
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yes i have already ordered all the parts thanks for the info though! My car now has sweet thunder duals with an x pipe muchhhh better sound then the y-pipe and LM1.
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 10:33 PM
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Got some parts in today figured I'd throw up a pic!
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Old Jun 14, 2013 | 11:30 PM
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Do I need to buy a new cam retainer plate seeing how the old one has gasket like material on it? Also how should I go about putting the crank pulley back on? I don't really want to use the factory bolt in fear of screwing up the crank threads. Any one sell a reasonably priced install tool? Oh yeah all the parts are here cam will be going in come next Friday!
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Old Jun 15, 2013 | 01:42 PM
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Here's the tool to get:
http://www.coloradospeed.com/hawk-ls...3-p-10976.html

As long as the dog bone shaped seal on the retainer is not damaged, no you don't need to replace it.
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 10:49 PM
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Well guys today I started the install just thought I'd share the progress

Removing the radiator and what not.


Timing cover and all that good stuff removed.


Then finally how she sits right now, I was kindly amazed how the lifters just sat up in the lifter trays (I think that's what they are called?) once I spun the cam over a few times I have some wooden dowels I will be using to hold them up of course.


Here's my current work station, those saber lights come in real handy!

I plan on getting it all wrapped up tomorrow, I will keep this thread updated with some pictures though. I'm dreading the valve spring install to be honest but hopefully it will all go smooth.
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Old Jun 22, 2013 | 01:04 AM
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Just don't get in a hurry, and you'll do fine.
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Old Jun 22, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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Well I got her all finished up today! Took it for a spin alittle while ago, the cam sure did make the car a lot more peppy. Here's a few shots from today.

out with the old in with the new


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I will try to take a video and post it up for you guys, it definitely has a nice lope to it. I appreciate all the help with the install guys couldn't have done it without your advice and guidance! Now just to get in scheduled in for a dyno tune. Currently running a mail order from PCM of NC.
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