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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:46 PM
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Trying to spec out some heads and spoke with Mike at TEA and he can turn down LS3 valves as a hollow stem option because Ferrea does not offer a 2.080" with correct valve stem length.

Has anyone pulled the valve after running for awhile and checked the valve seat? I'm curious because seats are hardened for fatigue toughness and wondered if anyone could comment on the durability.

The other option is go with the 245cc head which uses a 2.100" valve and Ferrea does make this valve in the required length. What is the min bore dia on the 245 head?
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Originally Posted by jobe_ls1
Trying to spec out some heads and spoke with Mike at TEA and he can turn down LS3 valves as a hollow stem option because Ferrea does not offer a 2.080" with correct valve stem length.

Has anyone pulled the valve after running for awhile and checked the valve seat? I'm curious because seats are hardened for fatigue toughness and wondered if anyone could comment on the durability.

The other option is go with the 245cc head which uses a 2.100" valve and Ferrea does make this valve in the required length. What is the min bore dia on the 245 head?
Plenty of folks have used the LS3 hollow valves to add rpms and valvetrain
stability. If anything the valvejob and seats should last longer because there
is less valve bounce with the lighter hollow stems. The 245 heads are prob-
ably meant for larger engines having a bore size of 4.065"-4.125"
Here's a cool part I stumbled across when considering valves/sizing what not
http://store.katechengines.com/intak...2100-p111.aspx
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I don't have any longevity numbers to share. But lots of folks have done it. It's definitely worth it.
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Just out of curiosity, do the hollow stem valves have any effect on valvespring life?
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They are lighter which positively affects the life on all components of the valvetrain.
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Originally Posted by A.R. Shale Targa
Plenty of folks have used the LS3 hollow valves to add rpms and valvetrain
stability. If anything the valvejob and seats should last longer because there
is less valve bounce with the lighter hollow stems. The 245 heads are prob-
ably meant for larger engines having a bore size of 4.065"-4.125"
Here's a cool part I stumbled across when considering valves/sizing what not
http://store.katechengines.com/intak...2100-p111.aspx
Good info thanks. My bore is 4.125" but the tea site says min bore for the 245 is 4.155". What is the valve stem length for that Katech valve? It's about 20 bucks cheaper than the Ferrea so it may be the one I go with on the 245 route.
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I don't have any longevity numbers to share. But lots of folks have done it. It's definitely worth it.
Ok thanks, what lobes are you using?
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EPS lobes.

The 245 is what I'd run. I wouldn't even think twice about that on a 4.125" bore.

If you want more than 600rwhp I'd go LS7. But for 600rwhp + torque the 245s are my choice.
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Originally Posted by jobe_ls1
Trying to spec out some heads and spoke with Mike at TEA and he can turn down LS3 valves as a hollow stem option because Ferrea does not offer a 2.080" with correct valve stem length.

Has anyone pulled the valve after running for awhile and checked the valve seat? I'm curious because seats are hardened for fatigue toughness and wondered if anyone could comment on the durability.

The other option is go with the 245cc head which uses a 2.100" valve and Ferrea does make this valve in the required length. What is the min bore dia on the 245 head?
Why even turn down the valve to 2.08" if you are using a 4.125" bore? You can fit the full 2.165" diameter of the LS3 valve in there.
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Why even turn down the valve to 2.08" if you are using a 4.125" bore? You can fit the full 2.165" diameter of the LS3 valve in there.
In a trickflow casting?
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Originally Posted by KCS
Why even turn down the valve to 2.08" if you are using a 4.125" bore? You can fit the full 2.165" diameter of the LS3 valve in there.
Probably has more to do with the bowl area and chamber shape. The valve
is just a dinner plate in the way of flow which is why most head gurus try to
get the most flow possible from the smallest valve.
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Originally Posted by jobe_ls1
In a trickflow casting?
Sure, why not?

Originally Posted by A.R. Shale Targa
Probably has more to do with the bowl area and chamber shape. The valve
is just a dinner plate in the way of flow which is why most head gurus try to
get the most flow possible from the smallest valve.
Yeah, it's just in the way of flow. Like the heart just pumps blood throughout your body. Why wouldn't you want to biggest valve possible/reasonable?
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