L33 Teardown thoughts?
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The last few months my rig has been complaining about low oil pressure at idle. Its gotten worse with the colder ambients and most recently developed a tick/knock
I need this thing for daily duties and a friend had a 60k mile LM7 sitting around so over the last few days I swapped them out and got the truck back on the road.
I tore down the engine today expecting to find a roached rod/main bearing but after complete disassembly I'm not seeing anything stand out. I'm curious if it could be a lifter but I'm not really sure how to determine if they're bad.
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/3D3C7442-3A54-46FD-9839-1FCCAE10E042_zpsb7ylfsp5.jpg)
Cam bearings were all in tact and didnt see anything crazy on the cam. This particular journal I noticed it had some odd wear but I highly doubt this was the source of the noise. The journal feels smooth
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/BF79BE6C-0783-4F98-9682-B6F516A72DD9_zpszu1mbydj.jpg)
Mains from front to back
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/96395020-1E87-432A-9B03-6722760ABF81_zpsypfgumbo.jpg)
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/CD987861-C014-40C1-AA93-152EA056D2CD_zpshtszj0pv.jpg)
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/2F5ACC70-EEF1-4420-8F9E-6382EB1B0E11_zps366ijcig.jpg)
Some pitting on the main cap #1 but nothing (I would assume) to cause my noise
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/F24B6255-C786-43A5-A5E8-B7D120F6CB86_zpswco1mkvg.jpg)
Crank from front to back
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/883B0511-B8C7-4D2B-8C91-F5F26116878F_zpsg6kcljvu.jpg)
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/67AF2863-0026-4D0F-A2DA-14244D7E1D97_zpsq2q2nqw3.jpg)
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/6FAC384B-8E3E-4206-A4D8-43F9DA48F970_zpsxtgryzkb.jpg)
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/B6287963-2A30-4547-BD17-AFF34C4FD891_zpsgtulsfvs.jpg)
Every rod bearing was in-tact with no grooves detected by my finger nail. Without question none of them had spun. The bearing locating tabs were in 100% shape as proof. There is also no blue-ing on the crankshaft to indicate a loss of lubrication.
I rolled every lifter over by hand and didnt feel any flat spots or binding in the rolling action. The L33 had ~175k on it so most of the bearing/journal wear I would assume is normal.
Scratching my head a little at this point.....![Icon Confused](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies2/icon_confused.gif)
Thoughts welcome, advice appreciated
The last few months my rig has been complaining about low oil pressure at idle. Its gotten worse with the colder ambients and most recently developed a tick/knock
I need this thing for daily duties and a friend had a 60k mile LM7 sitting around so over the last few days I swapped them out and got the truck back on the road.
I tore down the engine today expecting to find a roached rod/main bearing but after complete disassembly I'm not seeing anything stand out. I'm curious if it could be a lifter but I'm not really sure how to determine if they're bad.
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/3D3C7442-3A54-46FD-9839-1FCCAE10E042_zpsb7ylfsp5.jpg)
Cam bearings were all in tact and didnt see anything crazy on the cam. This particular journal I noticed it had some odd wear but I highly doubt this was the source of the noise. The journal feels smooth
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/BF79BE6C-0783-4F98-9682-B6F516A72DD9_zpszu1mbydj.jpg)
Mains from front to back
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/96395020-1E87-432A-9B03-6722760ABF81_zpsypfgumbo.jpg)
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/CD987861-C014-40C1-AA93-152EA056D2CD_zpshtszj0pv.jpg)
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/2F5ACC70-EEF1-4420-8F9E-6382EB1B0E11_zps366ijcig.jpg)
Some pitting on the main cap #1 but nothing (I would assume) to cause my noise
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/F24B6255-C786-43A5-A5E8-B7D120F6CB86_zpswco1mkvg.jpg)
Crank from front to back
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/883B0511-B8C7-4D2B-8C91-F5F26116878F_zpsg6kcljvu.jpg)
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/67AF2863-0026-4D0F-A2DA-14244D7E1D97_zpsq2q2nqw3.jpg)
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/6FAC384B-8E3E-4206-A4D8-43F9DA48F970_zpsxtgryzkb.jpg)
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/B6287963-2A30-4547-BD17-AFF34C4FD891_zpsgtulsfvs.jpg)
Every rod bearing was in-tact with no grooves detected by my finger nail. Without question none of them had spun. The bearing locating tabs were in 100% shape as proof. There is also no blue-ing on the crankshaft to indicate a loss of lubrication.
I rolled every lifter over by hand and didnt feel any flat spots or binding in the rolling action. The L33 had ~175k on it so most of the bearing/journal wear I would assume is normal.
Scratching my head a little at this point.....
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Thoughts welcome, advice appreciated
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Not many AFA guys in here huh? ![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
FWIW I got it figured out tonight. Just took a little closer of an eye than I was expecting to use.
I examined the rockers much more closely this time and found two that had worn and consequent push rod wear. This added more slop to the combo and produced the wear. I may be able to chalk this up to a failing oil pump giving me low oil pressure in combination with maybe some lifters taking a dump.
Here is one in decent shape
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/0F06FE2B-7C17-495F-B5C4-2E0E1DBA383C_zpstptmngrp.jpg)
You can see the wear on this one
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/43F25DAB-48BA-46E3-A277-1822A2617914_zpssnjixnef.jpg)
Here is the 2nd one (I found only two like this among all cylinders) next to a good one
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/6DE9966A-177A-4A75-8EF2-5D234200240F_zpsuu0lsjwo.jpg)
You can see the worn push rod compared to a good push rod. There is an obvious difference the length.
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/EAC6E845-D6B2-46A0-95D4-303FE72B801F_zps20kynkdp.jpg)
I think I'll reassemble this L33 and put some good parts in it and sell it as a long block
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FWIW I got it figured out tonight. Just took a little closer of an eye than I was expecting to use.
I examined the rockers much more closely this time and found two that had worn and consequent push rod wear. This added more slop to the combo and produced the wear. I may be able to chalk this up to a failing oil pump giving me low oil pressure in combination with maybe some lifters taking a dump.
Here is one in decent shape
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/0F06FE2B-7C17-495F-B5C4-2E0E1DBA383C_zpstptmngrp.jpg)
You can see the wear on this one
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/43F25DAB-48BA-46E3-A277-1822A2617914_zpssnjixnef.jpg)
Here is the 2nd one (I found only two like this among all cylinders) next to a good one
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/6DE9966A-177A-4A75-8EF2-5D234200240F_zpsuu0lsjwo.jpg)
You can see the worn push rod compared to a good push rod. There is an obvious difference the length.
![](http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/Booztd3/My%20Cars/05%20Silverado/EAC6E845-D6B2-46A0-95D4-303FE72B801F_zps20kynkdp.jpg)
I think I'll reassemble this L33 and put some good parts in it and sell it as a long block
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Same thing here with my L33. Ron, what did you end up doing about it?
I'm a bit torn as to weather or not to tear into the whole thing and "freshen" it or just replace the pushrods and worn rockers.
I'm a bit torn as to weather or not to tear into the whole thing and "freshen" it or just replace the pushrods and worn rockers.
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I lightly smoothed the scuffed pistons with 1200 grit and used them. Reused the bearings too.
Because I was adding a turbo I replaced the cam lifters pushrods etc with new. Along with a new oil pump.
Mine came from a wrecking yard, so I don't know it's history.
I'd actually like to have a spare engine, just in case. I like the L33.
Ron
Because I was adding a turbo I replaced the cam lifters pushrods etc with new. Along with a new oil pump.
Mine came from a wrecking yard, so I don't know it's history.
I'd actually like to have a spare engine, just in case. I like the L33.
Ron