Hi,

What would be the HP and performance difference between the 224/224/114 with .563 lift compared to the 2003 Z06 cam. I have a 6 speed 99 C-5 and need to stay emm. legal and I want a smooth running engine. If the HP difference is only 5 or so I would go with the Z06 but if it close to 20 then I may consider going with the 224. Any info will be appreciated, Thanks

 

tr224 owns the ls6 cam hands down all through out the whole powerband

 

I don't know about an LS1 but on a LS6 everthing else being equal the 224 is worth about 20-25 more peak hp.

 

If you gonna go with the time to put the cam in yourself, or pay somebody else to do it, you should do the 224, you will love your car so much more everytime when you crank it up and you hear that cam loping.

 

Nasty, how does your car run with the LPE cam? Do you get more power than with a 224? Hows the lope on the LS1 with the 113LSA?

 

My TR224/114 has practically NO lope at all. It's very tame, and IMO if you're going to do a cam swap don't waste time and $$ on the LS6 cam. Go for the TR224!

 

If you want no lope i'd also say go with the 224 114 also. Its the one i have in my Z and wit hthe idle at 900rpms its hard to tell its got a cam. But the power gain is very good above 3k rpms. The way it pulls now with the 224, i can imagine how it would pull with a bigger cam. I'm sure i'll find out.

Get the 224!!!!!!!! You won't regret it.

 

I've had both and the TR224 outpowers the LS6 cam hands down. Imagestation won't let me host the graphs anymore but here is the breakdown......

Mods....At the time of these numbers the car had all mods in sig minus the S2 heads and Catted Y pipe.

RWHP
LS6 TR224

2500 140 148
3000 180 193
3500 218 238
4000 270 285
4500 308 320
5000 345 365
5500 368 390
6000 376 399
6500 375 392

RWTQ
LS6 TR224
2500 300 302
3000 320 341
3500 330 355
4000 348 377
4500 357 382
5000 361 385
5500 350 370
6000 330 350
6500 300 320

 

Thanks for all the info, what would be the difference betwween the 112 and 114, because I will not go with the 112, Thanks again

 

The 112 will be more chopy and have a little more HP on top vs. the 114 will sound very mild and have more power lower in the rpms.

 

There's a lot of cams in between the ls6 & a 224. I heard TR224's that burble noticibly, and others that sound stock. There really is no 'correct' or 'perfect' cam, just ones that perform well based on your application and goals, as usually is the case. I wouldn't install one until you have talked to people and researched graphs and results, but nevertheless I'm leaning towards the comp 216/220, which fits perfectly in between those 2 bumpsticks.

 

Hey guys what are your thoughts on this cam, keep in mind I have to pass CA smog? 529 534/218 224/114

 

Well, from the specs we can make out that it's a similar configuration to the Comp mentioned before, just a little bigger. In addition, it has a prefered more milder now lift as do the existing recent ls6 cams, so I imagine it wouldn't be too brutal on springs (although there are more forces acting on that than just lift...) or lack thereof. Physics tells us that it should have less total overlap that the TR224. Lobes are the key (according to howstuffworks.com) so this spit duration you have there only tells part of the picture usually. This would in turn help with emissions if you need to qualify for sniffer at some point. Honestly a big change is not really needed to see noticeable power curve characteristics, but IMO I wouldn't mind hearing what actual owners of this cam here have to say, about the way it puts down power and it's drivability characteristics. You can learn alot from the various specs and testing that the sponsers participate in as well, so don't overlook that, as well as what friend might tell you or convince you of regarding their own cams. Ownership is a key factor in any cam installation, and only an owner can really tell you what it does. In fact someone did suggest recently that small cams don't need tuning, but I'm of the opinion that a qualified tuner can only extract more of any cam's potential in the proper application. Hope this helps.