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Old 01-15-2015, 09:06 AM
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About to pick up another LS1 (full bolt on m6) and 1st things 1st, this baby needs a nice cam.

It will be a daily driver but my commute to work is less than 5 miles and its all highway. Dont want a gaint donkey dick cam but want something to get close to 400 RWHP and have a nice lope to it.

These are the 3 options ive narrowed down to

TR230 - 230/224 ---- .575/.563 111 LSA

Torquer v3 -231/234 ----- .643/598 on 111 LSA

TSP - 233/239 --- .595"/.603 on 112 LSA

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Do you have the total specs of those cams?
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Torquer V3 of the choices you have listed. It's not too big, but by no means small, and it has a very nice lope to it.
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We need the intake and exhaust duration of all the cams listed so we know what the overlap is. That will tell you a lot.
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I think the Torquer V3 is 231/234.
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
I think the Torquer V3 is 231/234.
Yes it is -- Sorry multi-tasking at work

Original post is all updated with cam info
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You should be able to find a lot of dyno results on here regarding all three cams. Seems to me the Torquer V3 always put down good numbers. You may also want to check out Tick Performance's line of cams.
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Thunder Racing no longer exists and the TR230 is pretty well outdated anyway...just talk to Geoff at EPS, he designed it.

I've seen less than stellar results from cars with the 233/239 cam.

The Torquer v3 has too much intake lift due to an aggressive lobe IMO


Just saw a thread in the newbie section stating Texas Speed has a v4 for the Torquer which looks much better for a street car, but you might talk to them about it. It's not even on their site yet I don't think.
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Achieving 400 RWHP cam only can be done with the correct supporting mods.

I think if you list your budget and what else you plan on doing besides a cam we can help you further.

As it sits I wouldn't pick any of them but if I had to I'd pick the second one listed. Just my .02
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The car is fitted with Kooks LT's, O/R Y pipe. Electric cutout, Lid, and stage 3 clutch.

Model is an 02 so it already has the LS6 manifold and comes with the 243 heads.

As far as other mods are concerned doubt I will add any.
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Nice supporting mods you have. Honestly, if I could have a "do over" I would have contacted Martin at Tick performance for a custom cam or got his input before I ordered the one I have. That's what I suggest bud
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Originally Posted by z28_YOU_HO
The car is fitted with Kooks LT's, O/R Y pipe. Electric cutout, Lid, and stage 3 clutch.

Model is an 02 so it already has the LS6 manifold and comes with the 243 heads.

As far as other mods are concerned doubt I will add any.
Is this a Vette? I know 02 trans Am's and Camaros did not come with 243 heads.
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Is this a Vette? I know 02 trans Am's and Camaros did not come with 243 heads.
No its another camaro LOL - Its been awhile 241 Heads; its not an LS6


Been awhile since Ive talked LS motors clearly
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I had very good luck with one you don't have listed. My LS1 GTO made 415 RWHP with a FlowTech Inductions Street Sweeper HT. It was a 228/232, .612/.600, 111 +2. I could lug the car in 6th gear at 1,200 RPM without bucking, got great gas mileage and it also had a lot of torque under the curve which was great for a street car. I would have gone back to it after rebuilding my motor but my stroker needed something a little bigger. Great cam
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Martin have nice cams so do Brian Tooley....
Every time someone mention 241 heads tho I swear I always think about advanced inductions camshafts.......
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Originally Posted by svede1212
I had very good luck with one you don't have listed. My LS1 GTO made 415 RWHP with a FlowTech Inductions Street Sweeper HT. It was a 228/232, .612/.600, 111 +2. I could lug the car in 6th gear at 1,200 RPM without bucking, got great gas mileage and it also had a lot of torque under the curve which was great for a street car. I would have gone back to it after rebuilding my motor but my stroker needed something a little bigger. Great cam
Just saw your video on YouTube -- Car sounds great
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
Thunder Racing no longer exists and the TR230 is pretty well outdated anyway...just talk to Geoff at EPS, he designed it.

I've seen less than stellar results from cars with the 233/239 cam.

The Torquer v3 has too much intake lift due to an aggressive lobe IMO


Just saw a thread in the newbie section stating Texas Speed has a v4 for the Torquer which looks much better for a street car, but you might talk to them about it. It's not even on their site yet I don't think.
Originally Posted by svede1212
I had very good luck with one you don't have listed. My LS1 GTO made 415 RWHP with a FlowTech Inductions Street Sweeper HT. It was a 228/232, .612/.600, 111 +2. I could lug the car in 6th gear at 1,200 RPM without bucking, got great gas mileage and it also had a lot of torque under the curve which was great for a street car. I would have gone back to it after rebuilding my motor but my stroker needed something a little bigger. Great cam
Both of these men speak the truth. The tv3 is not a good dd cam. The intake lsk lobe is very hard on springs and will need monitoring for a dd. The TR should go right in the trash lol and the 233/239 isnt bad but as said I've never seen great numbers with it.

Contact any cam guru on here and you wont go wrong. Cams are so subjective as long as you go with someone who knows what their doing it wont make a difference. I run the F13 cam from Futral in my car it pulls great and drives amazing so thats another company to add to the list. They also grind their cams on cam motion cores which is what I recommend.

Something in the high 220's low 230's on intake/exhaust and over 0 overlap you wont go wrong
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Check out the BTR Stage III or Stage IV
With a good tuner, both are very streetable. I have the Stage III (replaced the TR230 you spoke of) and am very pleased.
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Not to say the TR230 is bad...I ran a copy of it and a friend still runs one in his Corvette. There are just better things out there today. Right off the top of my head the only reverse split type cam that comes to mind would be the "El Torro", if you search this site you can find some stuff on it.

The Torquer v4 looks promising though and seems to fit in with the list you made and it's by Texas Speed which seems to be a sponsor you are leaning towards.


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