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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 07:50 PM
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building my ls1 heres my list of parts could mainly use help in rods and piston catagory nothing has been bought yet
vehicle is 1990 240sx ls1 t56 will be gt45 turbo and a goal of 700 whp

eagle 6.125 h beam rods
pistons unknown thinking mahle power pack -4cc cyl walls look good so hopefully stock bore piston will be brining block in on wensday tho
( trying to stay around 1k range for rods and pistons can get them rods from work for 405 and the mahle power pack's for 581 just not sure if they will handle the power mixed reviews)
also what rings to go with
getting cleavite bearings
arp main bolts
arp head bolts
ls9? head gaskets makes 9.5ish:1 comp
HMS C7R Timing Chain < not sure if it will work since ill have to have a line hone
ls7 lifters
lil john stage 2 turbo cam
melling high volume oil pump
dont know what valve springs yet

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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 10:28 PM
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Dont spend the extra on ls9 head gaskets.
The mahle pistons will work fine if they are 2618. The 4032 get sketchy at higher boost. H beam or I beam really wont matter honestly. youll get ZOMG ONLY H BEAMS!!!! But really guys are pushing that on the stock ls3 engines with blowers alot now days and those are gm i beams with less than stellar rod bolts. Clevite P series bearings would be best to use since you are likely at a stock crank.
We have many custom grinds or off shelf cams avail for a good price. we have a VERY NICE iwis chain that is stock sized. i seriously doubt youd need an undersize.
id not use ls7 lifters but the 5315s which we have for a great price. they will handle the build much better for a little more money.
we also have any valve spring you could want for the best price on here. we can get more in depth if you want just shoot me a pm.
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 07:02 PM
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well seen a callies 4in crank callies rods and diamond pistons in classifieds so got that part covered

ls9 gaskets are like 40 a side seems perdy resonable to me
and whats the reason for not using ls7 lifters?

not to be rude im asking for advise not a pushy salesman
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 07:19 PM
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$40 a side? you sure about that? that sounds more like ls3 gaskets.

what did you not read in there that wasnt advice? this isnt tv when you call me a pushy salesman you mean it offensively.
there is plenty of tech advice and ways to optimize spending your money on whatever you wish but i gave you very inexpensive options to help you save money and reaons why.
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 07:40 PM
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/na...GzwaArdn8P8HAQ
45$ each

and u didnt really give a reason why just they will be better
and no i didnt mean it offensively just every questions u answered ended with ill sell it to ya thats being pushy not being pushy would have been hey we can help u with anything u need at only the end
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 07:51 PM
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i did say send me a pm and i could get more in depth. $90 for ls9 gaskets vs $60 for ls3? There are so many supercharged ls3 camaros and vettes that have never cracked open the engine and make serious power. Turbo'd too. They dont need ls9 gaskets. They work just fine on stock head gaskets and stock head bolts. I find it hard to justify spending $40 more for a part that fails quite often due to improper torque, install, or prep. If you can justify it then do. I made suggestions. I didnt tell you this is the only way. You could use that to put toward something else. i would still not recommend an ls7 lifter for that build.

i didnt try to sell you pistons or bearings or rods or even gaskets. but I am a vendor and i do try to give people an idea of what we have for better prices/quality etc as well as give all the tech info i can.

ps i did end with that...
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by coSPEED2
Dont spend the extra on ls9 head gaskets.
The mahle pistons will work fine if they are 2618. The 4032 get sketchy at higher boost. H beam or I beam really wont matter honestly. youll get ZOMG ONLY H BEAMS!!!! But really guys are pushing that on the stock ls3 engines with blowers alot now days and those are gm i beams with less than stellar rod bolts. Clevite P series bearings would be best to use since you are likely at a stock crank.
We have many custom grinds or off shelf cams avail for a good price. we have a VERY NICE iwis chain that is stock sized. i seriously doubt youd need an undersize.
id not use ls7 lifters but the 5315s which we have for a great price. they will handle the build much better for a little more money.
we also have any valve spring you could want for the best price on here. we can get more in depth if you want just shoot me a pm.
Sounded like pretty good advice, and a reason to not use Ls7 lifters, maybe not as elaborate as You wanted but clearly states that 5315's would handle the build better. Maybe being new to the site your expectations we're in another realm. Good luck with the build sounds fun.
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The mahle pistons will work fine if they are 2618. The 4032 get sketchy at higher boost.
Mahle powerpacks are 4032 IIRC and they will hold that kind of boost just fine. Heck, stock hyper pistons can hold 5-600rwhp with the right tune. A forged piston, even 4032 will easily beat that. Both the Terminators and ZR1s have 4032 pistons and those get boosted to all hell just fine.
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Thanks KJ
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kj598bbc
Sounded like pretty good advice, and a reason to not use Ls7 lifters, maybe not as elaborate as You wanted but clearly states that 5315's would handle the build better. Maybe being new to the site your expectations we're in another realm. Good luck with the build sounds fun.
yea im hoping its fun and i guess when so many people say run them when one doesnt i guess i usually expect more of an explanation of why not to

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i did say send me a pm and i could get more in depth. $90 for ls9 gaskets vs $60 for ls3? There are so many supercharged ls3 camaros and vettes that have never cracked open the engine and make serious power. Turbo'd too. They dont need ls9 gaskets. They work just fine on stock head gaskets and stock head bolts. I find it hard to justify spending $40 more for a part that fails quite often due to improper torque, install, or prep. If you can justify it then do. I made suggestions. I didnt tell you this is the only way. You could use that to put toward something else. i would still not recommend an ls7 lifter for that build.

i didnt try to sell you pistons or bearings or rods or even gaskets. but I am a vendor and i do try to give people an idea of what we have for better prices/quality etc as well as give all the tech info i can.

ps i did end with that...
and sorry the way i read it about the gaskets i thought u ment i probly found ls3 gaskets not ls9 i guess ill have to look into the ls3 instead if there just as good

and ok i guess the lifters are still up in the air ill have to talk to jon more and see what he recomends with him cam setup for a turbo build
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