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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 09:34 PM
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Does everyone not realize its not JUST about the parts? It is about the profit margin. You can absorb alot of the smaller profit and produce a competitive price esp when you are building entire engines in your own machine shop and not having to outsource anything and still pay your machinist and assembler good money which they deserve. How are you going to pay at least those 2 people their wages when you make less than half the profit on one build where possibly different parts are used and they have to set up things differently or use a different method?
The main reason machine shops only use one brand of part is because they are used to that brand. Every brand has a few different ways of doing things like file fitting rings or any number of other things. When you have to take more time out of your already slammed day of bucking out engine after engine then you have to slow down and do things different it costs the shop more money.
Dont believe me try operating on a MAC OS for a day if you are using windows.
Why would they take your parts and have to screw up their assembly line when they are selling enough without that? That is what the local machine shops are for. And if you cant get an engine assembled for less than a short block from say tsp then you figure out why people buy them instead of piecing together. Sometimes its better to save it all up than just jump at every sale or deal that comes along.
SOMETIMES prices are negotiable also. I am not saying they are with any specific company but sometimes they will be willing to let an assembly go if its been sitting or cancelled etc. Building a good report with the vendor is just as crucial as them building a good one with you. It is a circle not a one way street.

That is the perspective from the other side.
Old Mar 4, 2015 | 10:24 PM
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Most all of the machine work we do is for the products build in house, but we have done and still do other machine work. We have a solid 30+ motors alone going out every month therefore there are certain things we don't do, do to time constraints, but most all of the engine machining and building processes are available all the time. We also try to steer away from building motors with used rotating assemblies do to the fact that it makes it hard to stand behind the motor.

I didn't have this conversation with you myself so I don't know where the miscommunication lies, so all I can do it apologize. With few exceptions, if your parts are new we should certainly be able to get you lined out.
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Old Mar 4, 2015 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sales2@Texas-speed
With few exceptions, if your parts are new we should certainly be able to get you lined out.
Bingo. There we go.
Old Mar 5, 2015 | 02:06 PM
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This is because not MAINLY about the parts weren't bought from TSP. It doesn't matter if the parts are brand new in the box. Doesn't matter at all.

What if the same part TSP has on shelf, say a crank, is from a batch build date. And the same crank you are supplying is from a different batch build date.

Time goes along, your block is built with your parts supplied. Something goes wrong 10K miles later the motor blows and come to find out the crank is bad because the crank mfg found out the material sourced was of bad material and is doing a recall. So do we blame TSP in this case. No but rest assured the customers is going to want to blame someone and point fingers at TSP at why they didn't inspect the crank. If TSP supplied the crank do we blame them in this case? Yes. Because ultimately they supplied and sold the part even though there is a mfg recall they didn't know about.

So this is why a lot of places will no longer accept supplied parts unless there is full disclosure.

Some of you guys are quick to judge and and the moderators should be removing stupid remarks such as What a bunch of dick heads ! and putting time out for that poster ... and no ... Moderators don't need to know who the salesperson was. It's none of anyone's business except the OP and TSP.
Old Mar 5, 2015 | 02:19 PM
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The thread was locked. No need to scrub one comment out on a locked thread. The issue was resolved by the OP and TSP as far as I can tell. The policy was clarified.
Old Mar 5, 2015 | 02:42 PM
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I'd say Colorado Speed needs to worry about Colorado Speed, and not what moderators do, or other sponsors for that matter.

Second, I myself locked this thread, so how you were even able to POST in it is beyond me.


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