Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Block Choice? Ls1,2, 3?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 13, 2017 | 11:01 AM
  #21  
chevyss2008's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
 
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 224
Likes: 1
Default

Have decided to go ahead with the LS3 from Thompson Motorsports....They had the best price on them...My son wants to buy my LS1 for a project engine for something he is going to build...So it all worked out pretty good..
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2017 | 11:04 AM
  #22  
JakeFusion's Avatar
Super Hulk Smash
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 11,258
Likes: 146
From: Pace, FL
Default

Good choice.
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2017 | 12:35 PM
  #23  
bbond105's Avatar
TECH Junkie
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 3,050
Likes: 716
From: Poplarville, MS
Default

What about a LS7 block. Doesn’t it have a longer cylinder that would be easier on pistons at the bottom of the stoke if you were installing a 4” or 4.125” stoke crankshaft.
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2017 | 01:05 PM
  #24  
big hammer's Avatar
10 Second Club
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 3,427
Likes: 226
From: over dere
Default

Ls7 block then ls3
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2017 | 01:11 PM
  #25  
chevyss2008's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
 
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 224
Likes: 1
Default

Why not just go with Shafiroff then? LS3 is more than I need for the goal I originally posted..
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2017 | 01:14 PM
  #26  
Tuskyz28's Avatar
TECH Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,893
Likes: 703
From: Mississippi
Default

Originally Posted by bbond105
What about a LS7 block. Doesn’t it have a longer cylinder that would be easier on pistons at the bottom of the stoke if you were installing a 4” or 4.125” stoke crankshaft.
They also known for crack cylinder walls.
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2017 | 01:34 PM
  #27  
JakeFusion's Avatar
Super Hulk Smash
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 11,258
Likes: 146
From: Pace, FL
Default

LS7 is also 1300 more. If you want 650rwhp, then yes, you need the LS7 block or a resleeved block or aftermarket block because you need a 4.125" bore or more. But for 550-600rwhp, you can do it cheaper with the LS3.
Reply
Old Mar 13, 2017 | 10:13 PM
  #28  
64post's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,710
Likes: 228
From: Sonoma Co. Ca.
Default

Originally Posted by JakeFusion
LS7 is also 1300 more. If you want 650rwhp, then yes, you need the LS7 block or a resleeved block or aftermarket block because you need a 4.125" bore or more. But for 550-600rwhp, you can do it cheaper with the LS3.
That sounds good. I have a new LS3 block from Summit and I'd like to build a 416 this year for an eventual replacement and my goal? ..... 575rwhp
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 14, 2017 | 07:31 AM
  #29  
big hammer's Avatar
10 Second Club
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 3,427
Likes: 226
From: over dere
Default

Ls3 is a pretty darn good "budget" block.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2017 | 08:46 AM
  #30  
JakeFusion's Avatar
Super Hulk Smash
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 11,258
Likes: 146
From: Pace, FL
Default

575 can be done. TEA/TFS 245s, MMS 235s, Frankenstein TFS 237s, or the TFS LS3 255s or MAST 255s can all get you there. PRCs are also good for the money.

I think for cathedrals, I'd do the TEA 245s touched by Brian Tooley since they are so track proven. Or I'd go to Mamo and have him work a set of TFS 255s.

Of course, the MAST heads are awesome and are essentially using the LS7 configuration with an LS3 intake manifold. So there's definitely some good choices in the 4.070" bore range.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2017 | 09:31 AM
  #31  
Tuskyz28's Avatar
TECH Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,893
Likes: 703
From: Mississippi
Default

TRACK PROVEN!! Can't beat it.... can't argue with real results.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2017 | 09:44 AM
  #32  
chevyss2008's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
 
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 224
Likes: 1
Default

That's what Im trying to decide on now...Rect port or cath.....Rect def flow better in stock form...but intakes are easier and cheaper with cath port heads...Whichever I end up getting, Im going to get Pat G to spec a cam for it
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2017 | 09:50 AM
  #33  
Tuskyz28's Avatar
TECH Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,893
Likes: 703
From: Mississippi
Default

Originally Posted by chevyss2008
That's what Im trying to decide on now...Rect port or cath.....Rect def flow better in stock form...but intakes are easier and cheaper with cath port heads...Whichever I end up getting, Im going to get Pat G to spec a cam for it
Every Pat G cam I've read up on run 10s in the quarter. They was all motor 6 speed F body cars with CATHEDRAL heads. All those cars was over 402ci....
If you look up Pat G threads he have started you can tell he is not a big fan of the LS3 head. You'll see where he makes more power with AFR/TFS heads over the LS3 port head.
​​​​​Cant go wrong with Pat G on the cam specs!!
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2017 | 09:55 AM
  #34  
chevyss2008's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
 
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 224
Likes: 1
Default

He is a great guy.....I have driven 8 hours round trip on 2 diff occasions to have him tune my WS6, and will be going back to him on this build as well....Sending him a txt later today to get his opinion on which heads I should go with within my price range, and get the ball rolling on getting a cam grind...Mid to low 11 should be very easy, even with a near stock LS3 in a WS6...
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2017 | 09:59 AM
  #35  
Tuskyz28's Avatar
TECH Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,893
Likes: 703
From: Mississippi
Default

Originally Posted by chevyss2008
He is a great guy.....I have driven 8 hours round trip on 2 diff occasions to have him tune my WS6, and will be going back to him on this build as well....Sending him a txt later today to get his opinion on which heads I should go with within my price range, and get the ball rolling on getting a cam grind...Mid to low 11 should be very easy, even with a near stock LS3 in a WS6...
I'm interested in hearing his recommendation on the head selection.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2017 | 10:40 AM
  #36  
Dark Energy's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Default

Texas Speed SELLS a Darton re-sleeved block for 2k. No one can beat that and I can't believe you guys didn't know about this one & I don't even do research anymore LOL!

Start off with a 4.185 and your off to the Races with a Big bore = more Hp & faster ET's


http://www.texas-speed.com/p-5572-te...-outright.aspx

Last edited by Dark Energy; Mar 14, 2017 at 10:45 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2017 | 10:52 AM
  #37  
Tuskyz28's Avatar
TECH Veteran
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,893
Likes: 703
From: Mississippi
Default

Originally Posted by Dark Energy
Texas Speed SELLS a Darton re-sleeved block for 2k. No one can beat that and I can't believe you guys didn't know about this one & I don't even do research anymore LOL!

Start off with a 4.185 and your off to the Races with a Big bore = more Hp & faster ET's


http://www.texas-speed.com/p-5572-te...-outright.aspx
Stop telling people!!
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2017 | 10:57 AM
  #38  
Dark Energy's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
Default

Why would I do that Brother I'll never build one. I refuse to go past my Lq4 that's why I WASTE money on **** not needed. But love to point someone in the Right Direction if I can. If you purchase that block let me get the aluminum one you got and some time in the Future I'd do a re-sleeve.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2017 | 11:51 AM
  #39  
big hammer's Avatar
10 Second Club
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 3,427
Likes: 226
From: over dere
Default

Originally Posted by 64post
That sounds good. I have a new LS3 block from Summit and I'd like to build a 416 this year for an eventual replacement and my goal? ..... 575rwhp
Texas Speed has been doing a bunch of ls3 testing. They're up to 650 hp on the stock bottom end NA on 93 octane.
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2017 | 11:53 AM
  #40  
big hammer's Avatar
10 Second Club
15 Year Member
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 3,427
Likes: 226
From: over dere
Default

Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
Every Pat G cam I've read up on run 10s in the quarter. They was all motor 6 speed F body cars with CATHEDRAL heads. All those cars was over 402ci....
If you look up Pat G threads he have started you can tell he is not a big fan of the LS3 head. You'll see where he makes more power with AFR/TFS heads over the LS3 port head.
​​​​​Cant go wrong with Pat G on the cam specs!!
I've seen where a guy made 721 hp NA on a 6.0 with ported stock ls3 castings. Not bad or what
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:53 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE