Sea foam Question
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It is not pointless. You still have fuel rails and the cross over tube that could use the cleaning. Many fuel system cleaners will also result in some cleaning of the engine valves and combustion chamber and this is the reason most people buy Top Tier fuels - Chevron, Shell, Exxon-Mobil, etc. I try to avoid the lower priced fuels for these reasons. I'm less of a fan of Sea Foam than AC Delco "X66P" (expensive @ $26 a bottle) for a cleaner concentrate or Chevron Techron (way less expensive) in the bottle but Sea Foam should work well for you.
Rick
Rick
I've done before and after testing in the shop with it. It isn't snake oil depending on how it's used. Also chrisfix on youtube did some scope and tear down before and afters that you can see the difference it makes.
However pouring it in the fuel tank won't have the effect that feeding it directly through the intake does.
I've cleared up pinging issues with it (pinging due to carbon build up) and I've also brought catalytic converters back to life on several cars with it. It doesn't bring the converters back forever but it does improve their function enough to keep the check engine light off for several months so that you can get a state inspection.
It's not a permanent repair but it does improve some things. We also have other top end cleaners here at the shop that have shown before and after results that made the product worth the money.
I hate most additives and pour in stuff, a lot is snake oil, but there are a few top end cleaners that are not.
if youre careful and know what youre doing water will work for top end cleaner and its free.
the only fuel injection cleaner I use is with a built for purpose canister that runs only 100% cleaner
thru the system.GM makes both port/intake cleaner and fuel system cleaner. For the money you cant beat the Chevron
the only fuel injection cleaner I use is with a built for purpose canister that runs only 100% cleaner
thru the system.GM makes both port/intake cleaner and fuel system cleaner. For the money you cant beat the Chevron
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It is not pointless. You still have fuel rails and the cross over tube that could use the cleaning. Many fuel system cleaners will also result in some cleaning of the engine valves and combustion chamber and this is the reason most people buy Top Tier fuels - Chevron, Shell, Exxon-Mobil, etc. I try to avoid the lower priced fuels for these reasons. I'm less of a fan of Sea Foam than AC Delco "X66P" (expensive @ $26 a bottle) for a cleaner concentrate or Chevron Techron (way less expensive) in the bottle but Sea Foam should work well for you.
Rick
Rick
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I just got the X66p in the mail today. Where would you recommend to run it through? the Brake Booster line or thru the PCV intake port? I was thinking to unplug the PCV and run it straight through there but i've never did it through there and don't want to damage anything.
Either or both.
Just need to run it to a vacuum port on the intake for the best results, if you can do both then you'll hit it from different parts of the intake and get a more thorough cleaning.
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I'm a little more patient with letting my fuel cleansers work. I simply run it in the fuel tank with only a little fuel to make the cleanser operate in a very high concentration. Yes, it acts more slowly this way but there's way less smoke. But I have also poured some of these cleansers directly into the engine oil filler cap and then get an oil change after running a while.
Rick
Rick
SeaFoam is NOT the right thing to use to clean the top end of an engine. You need to use a real FOAM. SeaFoam is actually a LIQUID.
Go to a Yamaha outboard motor shop if you have one, get their Combustion Chamber Cleaner, its AWESOME. Or try to find (MCCC) MOPAR Combustion Chamber Cleaner. Spray it into the FORWARD vacuum port on the intake with the engine fully warmed up and running at idle.......Spray it in until you feel the can about to run out, then tell a buddy to immediately turn off the engine. Then let it sit for a couple hours. Thats the ONLY way to properly clean your top end.
SeaFoam poured into the brake booster port is for people who want to waste their time, money and possibly 100% destroy their engine in 10 seconds. Search and you will find out why....
SeaFoam (Liquid) is great for cleaning the fuel system. I use a full can into basically an empty tank of gas....every 3-4 months. It cleans everything. If you put it into any more than a 1/16th tank of gas, the concentration is not good enough and its a waste. Gotta be almost empty on gas.
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Go to a Yamaha outboard motor shop if you have one, get their Combustion Chamber Cleaner, its AWESOME. Or try to find (MCCC) MOPAR Combustion Chamber Cleaner. Spray it into the FORWARD vacuum port on the intake with the engine fully warmed up and running at idle.......Spray it in until you feel the can about to run out, then tell a buddy to immediately turn off the engine. Then let it sit for a couple hours. Thats the ONLY way to properly clean your top end.
SeaFoam poured into the brake booster port is for people who want to waste their time, money and possibly 100% destroy their engine in 10 seconds. Search and you will find out why....
SeaFoam (Liquid) is great for cleaning the fuel system. I use a full can into basically an empty tank of gas....every 3-4 months. It cleans everything. If you put it into any more than a 1/16th tank of gas, the concentration is not good enough and its a waste. Gotta be almost empty on gas.
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SeaFoam is NOT the right thing to use to clean the top end of an engine. You need to use a real FOAM. SeaFoam is actually a LIQUID.
Go to a Yamaha outboard motor shop if you have one, get their Combustion Chamber Cleaner, its AWESOME. Or try to find (MCCC) MOPAR Combustion Chamber Cleaner. Spray it into the FORWARD vacuum port on the intake with the engine fully warmed up and running at idle.......Spray it in until you feel the can about to run out, then tell a buddy to immediately turn off the engine. Then let it sit for a couple hours. Thats the ONLY way to properly clean your top end.
SeaFoam poured into the brake booster port is for people who want to waste their time, money and possibly 100% destroy their engine in 10 seconds. Search and you will find out why....
SeaFoam (Liquid) is great for cleaning the fuel system. I use a full can into basically an empty tank of gas....every 3-4 months. It cleans everything. If you put it into any more than a 1/16th tank of gas, the concentration is not good enough and its a waste. Gotta be almost empty on gas.
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Go to a Yamaha outboard motor shop if you have one, get their Combustion Chamber Cleaner, its AWESOME. Or try to find (MCCC) MOPAR Combustion Chamber Cleaner. Spray it into the FORWARD vacuum port on the intake with the engine fully warmed up and running at idle.......Spray it in until you feel the can about to run out, then tell a buddy to immediately turn off the engine. Then let it sit for a couple hours. Thats the ONLY way to properly clean your top end.
SeaFoam poured into the brake booster port is for people who want to waste their time, money and possibly 100% destroy their engine in 10 seconds. Search and you will find out why....
SeaFoam (Liquid) is great for cleaning the fuel system. I use a full can into basically an empty tank of gas....every 3-4 months. It cleans everything. If you put it into any more than a 1/16th tank of gas, the concentration is not good enough and its a waste. Gotta be almost empty on gas.
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Just gonna leave this right here.
I've seen before and after results with sea foam, using data, not just "I think it's better"
I use sea foam through the intake to make catalytic converters work again. I've done it many times for friends and a few customers. I would do it more for customers but it isn't a permanent fix.
Each time i've done it brought the converter back and kept the check engine light off for 6 months to a year.
I used to have to do it to my wife's mustang every 6 months to keep the check engine light off
You can see the difference in the 02 sensor activity before and after the seafoam cleaning, and obviously the check engine light staying off.
$13 seafoam or $600++++ converter change.. I'll go for the seafoam
Each time i've done it brought the converter back and kept the check engine light off for 6 months to a year.
I used to have to do it to my wife's mustang every 6 months to keep the check engine light off
You can see the difference in the 02 sensor activity before and after the seafoam cleaning, and obviously the check engine light staying off.
$13 seafoam or $600++++ converter change.. I'll go for the seafoam
I tried it about 15 years ago on a whim, if I remember right I was jacking with something else but while I was playing in the data stream I noticed a large change in the cat efficiency. The downstream 02 sensor activity slowed considerably (which is what the PCM looks for to determine cat efficiency)
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SeaFoam is NOT the right thing to use to clean the top end of an engine. You need to use a real FOAM. SeaFoam is actually a LIQUID.
Go to a Yamaha outboard motor shop if you have one, get their Combustion Chamber Cleaner, its AWESOME. Or try to find (MCCC) MOPAR Combustion Chamber Cleaner. Spray it into the FORWARD vacuum port on the intake with the engine fully warmed up and running at idle.......Spray it in until you feel the can about to run out, then tell a buddy to immediately turn off the engine. Then let it sit for a couple hours. Thats the ONLY way to properly clean your top end.
SeaFoam poured into the brake booster port is for people who want to waste their time, money and possibly 100% destroy their engine in 10 seconds. Search and you will find out why....
SeaFoam (Liquid) is great for cleaning the fuel system. I use a full can into basically an empty tank of gas....every 3-4 months. It cleans everything. If you put it into any more than a 1/16th tank of gas, the concentration is not good enough and its a waste. Gotta be almost empty on gas.
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Go to a Yamaha outboard motor shop if you have one, get their Combustion Chamber Cleaner, its AWESOME. Or try to find (MCCC) MOPAR Combustion Chamber Cleaner. Spray it into the FORWARD vacuum port on the intake with the engine fully warmed up and running at idle.......Spray it in until you feel the can about to run out, then tell a buddy to immediately turn off the engine. Then let it sit for a couple hours. Thats the ONLY way to properly clean your top end.
SeaFoam poured into the brake booster port is for people who want to waste their time, money and possibly 100% destroy their engine in 10 seconds. Search and you will find out why....
SeaFoam (Liquid) is great for cleaning the fuel system. I use a full can into basically an empty tank of gas....every 3-4 months. It cleans everything. If you put it into any more than a 1/16th tank of gas, the concentration is not good enough and its a waste. Gotta be almost empty on gas.
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get a 5 gallon fuel can... get 1 gallon of toluene … a half a cup of marvel mystery oil and 3 gallons of 93 octane agitate really well pour it in and it will clean EVERYTING and its pums up the octane rating quire a bit.... you can use xylene too... and its even better but don't get that **** on your paint.....