Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Lq4 build HELP

Old Jun 29, 2019 | 01:30 PM
  #1  
MAG1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: Houston,Texas
Default Lq4 build HELP

Ok so here it is .... I have some ported 317heads ,ls9 gaskets,LS7 lifters,ls2 timing chain,Ported NNBS Intake manifold,102 throttle body, 6.100 compstar rods and a cam that reads this

will these pistons "Wiseco Forged Pistons 6.0 4.005 Bore 3.622 Stroke +3.20cc flat top K398X05" work for this set up? Planning on running on e85...thank you in advance.

By the way did the compression calculator and it shows I'll be at 9.54:1

Last edited by MAG1C; Jul 1, 2019 at 10:38 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 30, 2019 | 06:28 PM
  #2  
Che70velle's Avatar
ModSquad
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,815
Likes: 5,150
From: Dawsonville Ga.
Default

What part number rod do you have? Your pistons are designed for a 6.098” rod length, although .002” longer rods (6.100”) won’t affect much as long as you measure your out of hole dimensions correctly, allowing for piston rock of course. Those same pistons have a .927” pin diameter, which is why I asked what part number rod you purchased. Most Compstars rods are set up on the small end for a .943” pin. Biggest dilemma these days is matching rod pin diameter to piston pin diameter for the LS stuff.
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2019 | 05:13 AM
  #3  
MAG1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: Houston,Texas
Default

Part# Csc6100ds2a2ah
Reply
Old Jul 1, 2019 | 04:51 PM
  #4  
Che70velle's Avatar
ModSquad
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,815
Likes: 5,150
From: Dawsonville Ga.
Default

Originally Posted by MAG1C
Part# Csc6100ds2a2ah
Those rods have a .928 pin bushing, so you should be fine. Keep in mind your compression height is a tad tall, which pushes the top ring toward the chamber a bit, but set up properly, I think youll be ok. Do your due diligence during mock up and check ptv as well as quench. You running this N/A?
Reply
Old Jul 2, 2019 | 06:44 AM
  #5  
MAG1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: Houston,Texas
Default

Originally Posted by Che70velle
Those rods have a .928 pin bushing, so you should be fine. Keep in mind your compression height is a tad tall, which pushes the top ring toward the chamber a bit, but set up properly, I think youll be ok. Do your due diligence during mock up and check ptv as well as quench. You running this N/A?
Well I wanted to do a 370 boost motor at first but then got all these parts on a deal and well a buddy told me he had these piston . That he never used and would let them go for 500 . So now idk what to do . And as for the cam . I dont think it's a boost friendly cam. Tried looking for it on line and no luck. By the way thank you for taking time and replying to me.
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2019 | 07:29 PM
  #6  
MAG1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: Houston,Texas
Default

Bump....
Reply
Old Jul 7, 2019 | 07:40 PM
  #7  
KCS's Avatar
KCS
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 8,859
Likes: 323
From: Conroe, TX
Default

Just a WAG, but I bet that was spec'd by Martin Smallwood of Smallwood Racing Development (SRD). The numbers on the back look like duration and then lobe lift, so possibly 248/264 duration with .365"/.355" lobe lift and a 114LSA with 4 degrees advance built in. It's not ideal for a boosted engine IMO.
Reply
Old Jul 11, 2019 | 03:44 AM
  #8  
1988montecarloss's Avatar
TECH Resident
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 972
Likes: 139
From: maine
Default

If that is the duration at .050” on that cam then it’s way too much for that compression ratio
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-3

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-7

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

 Brett Foote
story-9

10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 14, 2019 | 08:27 AM
  #9  
MAG1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: Houston,Texas
Default

Originally Posted by KCS
Just a WAG, but I bet that was spec'd by Martin Smallwood of Smallwood Racing Development (SRD). The numbers on the back look like duration and then lobe lift, so possibly 248/264 duration with .365"/.355" lobe lift and a 114LSA with 4 degrees advance built in. It's not ideal for a boosted engine IMO.
Yeah i figured will it still work on a n/a set up?
Reply
Old Jul 14, 2019 | 08:28 AM
  #10  
MAG1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: Houston,Texas
Default

Originally Posted by 1988montecarloss
If that is the duration at .050 on that cam then its way too much for that compression ratio
What compression would i need for this cam?
Reply
Old Jul 14, 2019 | 09:32 AM
  #11  
KCS's Avatar
KCS
Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 8,859
Likes: 323
From: Conroe, TX
Default

Originally Posted by MAG1C
Yeah i figured will it still work on a n/a set up?
It would work but not very well. It has a very late IVC event so It would want to make power at a higher RPM than what your intake will support. It also has a pretty significant amount of overlap for a 6.0L so it would sound pretty rowdy, but again, it won't be helping you much with the setup you have. Basically the engine would be all bark, and no bite.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2019 | 01:54 AM
  #12  
MAG1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: Houston,Texas
Default

Originally Posted by KCS
It would work but not very well. It has a very late IVC event so It would want to make power at a higher RPM than what your intake will support. It also has a pretty significant amount of overlap for a 6.0L so it would sound pretty rowdy, but again, it won't be helping you much with the setup you have. Basically the engine would be all bark, and no bite.
You think it will be better on a 408 stroker 10.1 compression
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2019 | 12:29 AM
  #13  
MAG1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: Houston,Texas
Default

To the top
Reply
Old Jul 18, 2019 | 06:39 AM
  #14  
Che70velle's Avatar
ModSquad
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,815
Likes: 5,150
From: Dawsonville Ga.
Default

Originally Posted by MAG1C
You think it will be better on a 408 stroker 10.1 compression
Better? Yes. Trying to build an engine around a camshaft is tough to do. It works out better having a camshaft built for the application, not the other way around. You are gonna run E85, so Id go at least 12 on compression, maybe 13 or 14. Lots of guys run 14:1 on E85, but your camshaft designer needs to know exactly what your doing with compression.
Reply
Old Jul 20, 2019 | 12:58 AM
  #15  
MAG1C's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: Houston,Texas
Default

Originally Posted by Che70velle
Better? Yes. Trying to build an engine around a camshaft is tough to do. It works out better having a camshaft built for the application, not the other way around. You are gonna run E85, so Id go at least 12 on compression, maybe 13 or 14. Lots of guys run 14:1 on E85, but your camshaft designer needs to know exactly what your doing with compression.
Ok thanks yeah i got a 408 on my truck thats getting rebuilt. And i lost the cam sheet of the cam So i idk what size it is .
Reply
Old Jul 26, 2019 | 12:44 AM
  #16  
PGE_Von's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: Cheraw,SC
Default Piston and rod HELP

Cant seem to find any rod that will work with a .945 pin piston. Was wondering if I could by any chance just make the switch to a .927 pin piston with no drawbacks? Engine is a 2003 6.0 LQ4.
Reply


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:19 PM.

story-0
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-3
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-4
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-5
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE
story-8
Five Reasons the Camaro Was the Most Pivotal Player in the Pony Car Wars 2.0

The world was a better place when it was still around.

By Brett Foote | 2026-01-23 09:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Reasons the LS7 Is GM's Most Extreme Naturally Aspirated V8 Engine Ever

Slideshow: The 7.0-liter LS7 was designed for absolute cutting-edge performance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-07 18:36:00


VIEW MORE