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Old May 8, 2021 | 07:46 PM
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Currently trying to find a cam and I've just about read and watched a hundred things trying to figure it out. Never messed with making more power on internal parts. Currently I got an L33 mated to a jeep ax15 in a jeep comanche. A new tremec TKX will be going in real soon. Running a Holley terminator, ls6 intake, upgraded trunnions and shorty headers. My goal is a fun daily driver. Ive really narrowed it down to Texas speed and BTR truck cams, low lift. Question is with stage to go with. Stage 2, 3 or 4. I'm leaning towards 3 or 4 just because I won't be doing forced induction and the cam will really be my only power adder. I would love to really wake this thing up but like I said I still want to be able to drive it every day.
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Those are great cams, but also check out truck cams from Cam Motion and Summit. Lots of choices between them!
I would not go bigger than say, a 212/218 .550/.550 on a 112 LSA. Much bigger and low end torque goes away.
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Stages are rpm. Jeep generally means you want more low end. So a lower stage is better. With no other information to go off.

Stages are meaningless anyway. Like a 3/4 race cam. Means nothing other than relative size based on that particular vendor or manufacturer
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Yeah I know the whole stage thing is based on manufacturer, just easier to specify that way. So I know I said jeep but this isnt the typical jeep build. It's a 2wd lowered 'race' build. Low end torque is definitely important to me but I wont be hauling really or off-road. Eventually I would love to try and track it but that's a big maybe. I'm sticking around .550 lift for reliability and not having to worry about crazy spring setups and longevity. 112 lsa would probably be good for the efi. The holley can self learn but I definitely would want a tuner to mess with it to clean it up. I was thinking more in the 220's for duration. The BTR stage 3 seems good for top end and from the graphs appears to not lose low end torque. I'll have to look at summit and cam motion.
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You can’t go wrong with any of the cam companies mentioned. Give them a call, or email them and tell them exactly what you want and they’ll take care of you. I personally went with Cam Motions for my build and they were great, very knowledgeable and great customer service.

Any idea what the Jeep weighs, gear and what converter? Heavier cars/trucks need more low end to get moving.
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You can’t go wrong with any of the cam companies mentioned. Give them a call, or email them and tell them exactly what you want and they’ll take care of you. I personally went with Cam Motions for my build and they were great, very knowledgeable and great customer service.

Any idea what the Jeep weighs, gear and what converter? Heavier cars/trucks need more low end to get moving.
It's gonna be an ls7 clutch and currently a 3.55 rear end soon to be a 3.73. And in theory it should probably weigh around 3k
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It's gonna be an ls7 clutch and currently a 3.55 rear end soon to be a 3.73. And in theory it should probably weigh around 3k
I missed the part about the manual trans. You’re going to be a lot lighter than I thought. There’s lots of cam options for your application. I might would even venture away from the truck cam idea.
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I think you should reconsider your 3.73 for 4.11 or even 4.30 with a manual. Pretty easy to set it up to rev. Gear will do more for torque than a cam.
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What size tire will you be running with the 3.73s. Personally at that weight I might think about different cams then the truck cams. 600 lift cams can be very reliable too and not wear springs out like you might think.
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What size tire will you be running with the 3.73s. Personally at that weight I might think about different cams then the truck cams. 600 lift cams can be very reliable too and not wear springs out like you might think.
Yeah that is kinda where I was going. Gear for torque and cam it for rpm now that your goals are better understood
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What size tire will you be running with the 3.73s. Personally at that weight I might think about different cams then the truck cams. 600 lift cams can be very reliable too and not wear springs out like you might think.
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Yeah that is kinda where I was going. Gear for torque and cam it for rpm now that your goals are better understood
tire size is currently 245 45 17. Probably wont go much taller than that, but probably fatter in the future. I didnt want to go to high for gearing for highway driving. the TKX has a .68 overdrive so 4.11 would be around 2700rpm at 75ish. Too high? and yeah I have been looking at non truck cams.
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tire size is currently 245 45 17. Probably wont go much taller than that, but probably fatter in the future. I didnt want to go to high for gearing for highway driving. the TKX has a .68 overdrive so 4.11 would be around 2700rpm at 75ish. Too high? and yeah I have been looking at non truck cams.
What sort of off-roading do you usually do? If rock crawling, off idle torque is STILL very important. If not, then go as suggested above. There are TONS of cams for whatever you want to do.
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What sort of off-roading do you usually do? If rock crawling, off idle torque is STILL very important. If not, then go as suggested above. There are TONS of cams for whatever you want to do.
No offroading for this thing. Purely a street vehicle.
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Originally Posted by 1970hemicuda
No offroading for this thing. Purely a street vehicle.
I just realized what the Comanche is- the pickup version of the Cherokee. VERY light. Yeah go a little wilder on the cam.... lol
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
I just realized what the Comanche is- the pickup version of the Cherokee. VERY light. Yeah go a little wilder on the cam.... lol
Yeah it's a little thing lol
Here's what I'm working with:

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That’s going to be a fun little street truck!
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Can you get any more tire under the rear? That thing is going to have some serious traction issues at that weight especially being a truck. Stay with the 3.73s and use either the BTR or TSP Truck Stage 3 cams to trade a little low end. Or maybe even order the Stage 2 TSP but ground on a 114 LSA. Should be very street friendly for a daily.

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Can you get any more tire under the rear? That thing is going to have some serious traction issues at that weight especially being a truck. Stay with the 3.73s and use either the BTR or TSP Truck Stage 3 cams to trade a little low end. Or maybe even order the Stage 2 TSP but ground on a 114 LSA. Should be very street friendly for a daily.
Allegedly a 295 will fit without cutting on the back of these with the bed tubs. Unfortunately the wheels I got only come in a 17x8. Id love to get a 275 in the back but that won't work on these rims.
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Allegedly a 295 will fit without cutting on the back of these with the bed tubs. Unfortunately the wheels I got only come in a 17x8. Id love to get a 275 in the back but that won't work on these rims.
Have them widened https://weldcraftwheels.com/
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tire size is currently 245 45 17. Probably wont go much taller than that, but probably fatter in the future. I didnt want to go to high for gearing for highway driving. the TKX has a .68 overdrive so 4.11 would be around 2700rpm at 75ish. Too high? and yeah I have been looking at non truck cams.
with my old 4l60e, 275/40/17s and 3.73s I would be at 3k at 80mph. I use to do that for a hour straight everyday for years. It’s high but do able since I did it for 60k plus miles over 4 years lol
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