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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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on jmx's site it is stated to torque the head bolts to 22ftlb+ 90*. according to a 97 vette helms manual it is 22ftlbs+76*+76*. thats a huge difference. i went ahead and followed the manuals guidelines, but why the difference and who is right? i put LS6 heads on with LS6 gaskets using LS6 bolts. the bolts are the same for both the LS1 and LS6, the gasket is a metal one while the factory one was the silver material one. anyone know? thanks
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The GM book states first pass 22ftlb 2nd 90*1-10 final 90*1-8 and 45* on 9&10 22ftlb on the 5 10mm bolts on the top. 9 & 10 are the two shorter 15 mm on each side of the head. Good luck! Just did this a day ago so I am very sure of my information had the GM instuctions in front of me when I did it for absolute accuracy.
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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the helms manuals are supposed to be THE GM manuals. i even looked in on 98s and it was the same. im wondering also how much does it matter?
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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1st. round 1-10 22ft bls. 2nd round 1-10 90* 3rd. round 1-8 90* and the outer short 9-10 -50* the smaller thats on top of the head or under the intake 22 ft bls
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Yeah I just had the guy at the dealer print the pages out and Randy is right it was 50* now that he metioned it but it is not rocket science.
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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well crap. oh and yes i am talking about just the really long 11mm bolts not the outer ones or the front and rear two. so what should i do? and why the hell is my helms manual wrong? makes me wonder what else is wrong in the manual. thanks
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Listen just go through and do it just as randy and I are talking about I promise you you will be fine. Just make sure that all your bolt holes are clean and are not filled with fluid etc... Best to blow them out with air. use a little thread sealant like the teflon paste on them so to make sure you don't get any leakage on the bolts that go though the coolant system etc... It is not hard.
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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reread what i said. im done. i did it according to what the helms manual told me to. these manuals are supposed to be THE manuals, im not referring to a haynes manual or chiltons. im talking about a three volume manual that cost over $100 new.

so now im wanting to know why the hell these expensive *** manuals(remember i looked in 98 as well and it was the same) are wrong and if i need to buy a new set of bolts and re do them according to GM specs eventhough these were supposed to be GM specs.
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I am sure you are ok and be sides you are only about 30* off from what the the stuff from the dealer said may be give it another 30* and call it done. That it will not hurt if you are just putting it together etc... 152 * vs 180*= 28*
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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ok thanks. i figured id be ok, but just wanted to check. i think i need to make a call to helms and find out why they are wrong or whats going on with that.
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Revised higher amount of degrees is to guarantee all the bolts ( TTY ) are stretching and thus providing even clamping force. This is to give better chance things work even if the cleaning of the threads has not been best possible.

As far as the bolts are within the stretch region it is not very critical how many degrees you turn.
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