99Z28Guy

I'm in the market for a cam at the moment, and I know there are tons of options out there, but I'm new to driving an a4 so I don't know what will work and what wont. I thought I did alot of research when I owned a 98 SS m6, and ended up going with a TR230, but I was severely disappointed w/the lack of power under about 3K rpms, the thing just felt like a slug.

I've had the new car for about 6 weeks now it I've already gotten several mods done to it. The list includes

lid/filter
SLP longtubes
Borla exhaust
Vig 3200 stal
3.73 gears

Now with having a stall & aftermarket gears, I have no clue what direction to go in. I've heard alot of good things about Futral cams, but info on them is hard to come by. I also know that the TR224 cam is an excellent all around cam, but I'm looking for something a bit bigger. Im I also correct in the fact that I'll need to look for a cam on a 114LSA for idle purposes? I also don't want a monster cam like a g5x2 or x3 because I really don't want over a .600 lift & beat up on the cars valvetrain. The car sees the track maybe 3-4 times a year. I'm looking for something that puts down great numbers w/at least middle of the road manners/driveability w/o having to spin to 7K rpms either.

So I'm mainly looking for personal experiences, but any info/suggestions would rock. Also preferences on a dual valvespring to use.

TIA

chrismcdaniel

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when you say "slug" , what do you mean? how much better over the stock ls1 cam was it bellow 3K...acording to the dyno sheet on the TR website, it looked pretty good to me.

LSUxBlake

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I may be biased, but I say to go with one of Futral's cams. They make a ton of power in the midrange where you want it, and are very driveable. The F11 and F13 are two really popular cams from them.
F11 (228/230 .581/.591 112+4 LSA)
F13 (230/232 .591/.595 112+4 LSA)

They both idle and drive really well, and from what Allan has said the F13 puts down about 6-10 more RWHP. You should give Allan or Candy a call, tell them what you've got, and they will talk to you about what is best for your setup. Good luck!

HouseWS6

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6-10 rwhp compared to what? over the F11 or the other cams he mentioned? I was looking at the Futral cams myself..

LSUxBlake

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Sorry, I meant over the F11. Like I said, call them anytime to talk, they are great about customer service and will get you what you need.

99Z28Guy

Well it did make more power than the stock LS1 cam, barely, under 3K rpms. Maybe for me, it was just because the thing pulled like a raped ape all the way up to 7K, that below 3K it just felt "sluggish" to me.

99Z28Guy

Do all Futral cams sit on a 112LSA? That F11 looks pretty tempting, and I think with a good tune it'd work pretty well. I dont know about rpm range though, I dont want to be shifting above 6300rpms (give or take).

HouseWS6

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FM-F2-112 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 224"/224" .586"/.586" 112LSA aggressive profile with a 1800-6600 RPM range, fair idle $ 399.99

FM-F2-114 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 224"/224" .586"/.586" 114LSA aggressive profile with a 1800-6600 RPM range, good idle $ 399.99

FM-F4-112 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 226"/226" .575"/.575" 112LSA aggressive profile with a 2000-6600 RPM range, fair idle $ 399.99

FM-F4-114 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 226"/226" .575"/.575" 114LSA aggressive profile with a 2000-6600 RPM range, fair idle (See track run of this cam in a cam only setup) $ 399.99

FM-F5-112 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 224"/228" .586"/.581" 112LSA aggressive profile with a 1800-6600 RPM range, fair idle $ 399.99

FM-F5-114 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 224"/228" .586"/.581" 114LSA aggressive profile with a 1800-6600 RPM range, good idle $ 399.99

FM-F6-112 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 226"/230" .576"/.591" 112LSA semi-aggressive profile with a 2000-6800 RPM range, rough idle $ 399.99

FM-F6-114 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 226"/230" .576"/.591" 114LSA semi-aggressive profile with a 2000-6800 RPM range, fair idle $ 399.99

FM-F7-114 Futral Motorsports Custom Blower/Nitrous Camshaft - 224"/230" .586"/.591" 114LSA aggressive profile with a 1800-6800 RPM range, fair idle, for blower/nitrous applications $ 399.99

FM-F9-114 Futral Motorsports Custom Blower/Nitrous Camshaft - 232"/236" .585"/.598" 114LSA aggressive profile with a 2800-7000 RPM range, rough idle, for blower/nitrous applications $ 399.99

FM-F10-112 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 228"/228" .581"/.581" 112LSA aggressive profile with a 2200-6600 RPM range, fair idle $ 399.99

FM-F10-114 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 228"/228" .581"/.581" 114LSA aggressive profile with a 2200-6600 RPM range, fair idle $ 399.99

FM-F11-112 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 228"/230" .581"/.591" 112LSA aggressive profile with a 2200-6600 RPM range, fair idle $ 399.99

FM-F11-114 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 228"/230" .581"/.591" 114LSA aggressive profile with a 2200-6600 RPM range, fair idle $ 399.99

FM-F12-112 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 230"/230" .591"/.591" 112LSA aggressive profile with a 2500-6800 RPM range, rough idle $ 399.99

FM-F12-114 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 230"/230" .591"/.591" 114LSA aggressive profile with a 2500-6800 RPM range, rough idle $ 399.99

FM-F13-112 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 230"/232" .591"/.585" 112LSA aggressive profile with a 2500-6800 RPM range, rough idle $ 399.99

FM-F13-114 Futral Motorsports Custom Grind Camshaft - 230"/232" .591"/.585" 114LSA aggressive profile with a 2500-6800 RPM range, rough idle $ 399.99

99Z28Guy

Wow, thanks for the input, House. This will help make the decision easier now that I have specs, etc. Do all Futral cams have a standard 4 degress of advance ground into them?

99Z28Guy

Also, what type of spring application would work with something like the FM11 114LSA? Who makes a good dual spring?!

Futral

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Manley and the PRC dual springs work well with our cams. We can put 4 or 2 degress in the cam,but mostly 4 unless some custom stuff.

Also have the 2 new cams F14 232\234 .598"\.598" , F? 236\239-111 .598"\.608"

cyphur

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Allan, what kind of power difference would I see from the -14 over the -13? And will both of those cams clear a set of LS6(243) heads, 2.05 valves(or do I need to stick with 2.02?), both unmilled, and milled 30thou? Thanks man!!

99Z28Guy

Cool, I was just worried about spring life, breakage, etc.


Holy cow man, those are some cams, but I doubt they'd work for my application unfortunately.

Futral

iTrader: (1)

On the average,an F13-112 combined with a 2.02" valve head milled .030" will net approx .070"-.080" IN\EX P\V clearence depending on valve job location. Our 236\239-111 cam will have the same clearence with stock valves unmilled. We have seen a 2.055"\1.60" AS ported head that had the EX valves sunk with unkown milled amount have .005" IN and 110" EX clearence.

You can expect to see approx 8-12 HP between the 2 cams

HouseWS6

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U have PM and mail..

99Z28Guy

Holy cow 236/239? Now we're really getting out of my league. LOL.

Guess I'll just have to keep browsing simliar threads to see what results people are getting.

99Z28Guy

Can anyone tell me if I should take anything into consideration w/having a 3200 stall & 3.73's in the rear?

HouseWS6

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Id like to know the answer to this as well..Vig3200 and 3.73's myself..

99Z28Guy

Anyone?