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Raise 12-15-2004 12:12 PM

MTI stage 2E heads/cam on the way!!!!!!!
 
ive been debating on getting a set of patriot heads. ive been reading that most of their issues have been cleared up. however, i dont think i would ever be able to completely relax given whats happened in the past...if i decided to go with them. i talked to gunnar at patriot performance for a while the other day. he talked with me for a couple hours, which i really appreciated. he talked with me about all the problems they had before, and after hearing him and reading all the contraversy on the board, i came to the conclusion that it was mainly a valvetrain problem, which has been fixed with the new valves/seals/springs. anyway, my point is i would have gone with a set of patriot heads had MTI not had this big sale going on. anyway, im going with the G1 cam and hopin to put down at least 425 to the wheels. i know MTI is a proven company and they put down some great numbers. anyway, i thought id share my joy ;) i will have them on in the next couple weeks and i will be sure to post some results. later yall :thumb:

by the way, Dave Coates at MTI, youre the man :hail: thanks for all the help you gave me today

blazeone 12-15-2004 05:15 PM

Congrats on the new power coming your way. My little C2 cam and the IIE heads are working great.

Raise 12-15-2004 05:23 PM

what specs on the C2? u had it dyno'd?

GeorgeC 12-15-2004 05:24 PM

I'm looking at the same MTI special myself... It's getting hard to resist.

Thinking the Stealth II cam would suit my needs well... :)

Raise 12-15-2004 06:00 PM

yeah, i thought about goin the stealth route, but i really wanna get all i can outta this head swap....tryin to hit atleast 425-430 with all my bolt ons. good luck to ya bro :thumb:

ulySSes 12-15-2004 06:05 PM

So you are billed 1990.00 shipped and you have 30 days to send them your core. If they don't get them in time, they'll bill you the cores charges "then."

Is that the way it works?

blazeone 12-15-2004 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by The35thZ
what specs on the C2? u had it dyno'd?

MTI C2 cam = 224X581X112 with MTI Stage 2E heads, underdrive pulley and Kooks long tube headers with hi-flow cats.

http://www.tbixby.com/dynochart-8-28-04.jpg

http://www.tbixby.com/new-6.jpg

Raise 12-15-2004 07:50 PM

wow man....not to sound rude, but i figured your vette wouldve put down better then 417rwhp with stage 2 heads and a 224 cam. hell im right under 400rwhp with just 224 cam, headers and true duals. anyway, power curve ;)

blazeone 12-15-2004 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by The35thZ
wow man....not to sound rude, but i figured your vette wouldve put down better then 417rwhp with stage 2 heads and a 224 cam. hell im right under 400rwhp with just 224 cam, headers and true duals. anyway, power curve ;)

What do you think it should be? Vette's have more driveline loss than f-bodies. Are ya running thru cats? I am.

Raise 12-15-2004 08:20 PM

actually, no im not. i got true duals with no cats. i didnt realize vettes had more driveline loss than f bodies. u think the cats are restricting u quite a bit?? i was hopin to hit around 430-440 with cam and heads

blazeone 12-15-2004 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by The35thZ
actually, no im not. i got true duals with no cats. i didnt realize vettes had more driveline loss than f bodies. u think the cats are restricting u quite a bit?? i was hopin to hit around 430-440 with cam and heads

Cats are -10hp, vette driveline another -10hp or so. It's not an exact science, from one dyno to another you can get different numbers.

Raise 12-15-2004 08:43 PM

ok, well i guess im lookin ok then ;) anyway, your car is gorgeous man...nice custom job on everything......sweet ride :thumb:

WILWAXU 12-15-2004 09:26 PM

Welcome to the 2E club :D

ta12sec 12-15-2004 10:13 PM

There is a good chance some mti heads will be finding their way onto my car in the near future.

Raise 12-15-2004 10:29 PM

hey WILWAXU, what size is your cam and have u had it on the dyno?

SideStep 12-15-2004 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by The35thZ
wow man....not to sound rude, but i figured your vette wouldve put down better then 417rwhp with stage 2 heads and a 224 cam. hell im right under 400rwhp with just 224 cam, headers and true duals. anyway, power curve ;)

His 417 is better than what I got... and he did it with a smaller cam... :(

:lurk:

jrp 12-15-2004 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by The35thZ
hey WILWAXU, what size is your cam and have u had it on the dyno?

230/227 .59x/.59x 112

and who cares what it dyno's, it put him in the 10's at 125+ with an a4. 'nuff said.

pdd 12-15-2004 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by SideStep
His 417 is better than what I got... and he did it with a smaller cam... :(

:lurk:

there might be a problem somewhere side step. was the quench set? are your heads milled? was the intake port matched? i pulled 435rwhp through cats but with a 90 TB and intake, but i had 3.90's. and i didnt set my quench or mill my heads. im doing all that now and switching to a 232/234 cam. will see what happens :)

Raise 12-15-2004 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by jrp
230/227 .59x/.59x 112

and who cares what it dyno's, it put him in the 10's at 125+ with an a4. 'nuff said.

well, i kinda wanted to see what he was putting down in the mid range. like a was saying to Blazeone, he had some nice mid range power under the curve, i was just curious why he only peaked at 417. i know mid range is where u want it, so thats really what i was asking him for. i wanted to see what the setup did in an f-body as opposed to a vette, so thats why i cared. im still deciding on a cam grind.....im probably going with the g1, but dave told me he would custom grind one for me, so i figure...why not take advantage of that? any suggestions on a good cam for this stage 2e head setup??


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