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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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I went with a fairly large cam in my car reciently. 244/250 .595/.595 114+4 lsa. I had planned on after getting into the 10's cam only to switch converters and start spaying it. Well the best I have gotten out of it is a 11.07@121mph in -1100 DA and dyno'd 344hp 360tq. Before the cam it dyno'd 304hp. So it doesn't look like it's going to get any better.

My question is that if I forget about spraying my car and go with a cam on a 109-110 LSA like a T-Rex or simular. Would it produce more power and run faster than the 114+4???

Mods(all bolt-ons, LT's w/ 3" duals, TCI 4400, 3.73's in a built 8.8.

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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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i'd probably tweak my suspension, drop some weight, try different tires and air pressure before i swapped a new cam in. where did your cam peak and where are you shifting at?
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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The suspension is pretty well tweaked. 1.46 60's cam only The cam never really peaks. It makes the same power from 4600(where they got on it) to 6800 and I shift at 6500. The graph looks like a strait line

I will see if I can post a graph for ya.
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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hey its jake..i juss went from the ms3 wich is a 237 242 603 609 113.. to something that is bigger on a 108 lsa..i put stock heads back on to...im goiing to the track thurs so ill let you know how this new cam works out..call me and ill give you the specs...214 738 7983
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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WOW
I just got 367 RWHP on my Y2K C5 on a TR224 only cam.
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I just got 367 RWHP on my Y2K C5 on a TR224 only cam.
You have a m6 and he has an auto with a stall, there is a big difference. I have a little bigger cam than you and made 390hp at the wheels.
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Old Jan 31, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Swap to a Yank PT4400 and you'll be there with change to spare. The converter you have sounds like it's gobbling up too much rwhp.
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I got 370 RWHP with my 230/232, 573/575, 111 lsa. cam only. And I mean cam only! Not even headers. I still had stock, (but port) exhaust manifolds and cutout opened.
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Here is the graph:

Red & Blue are with cam swap only.
Green is Stock Internal.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...0Car/na006.jpg
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Originally Posted by Lady Redhawk
I got 370 RWHP with my 230/232, 573/575, 111 lsa. cam only. And I mean cam only! Not even headers. I still had stock, (but port) exhaust manifolds and cutout opened.
Did you have a stall then??
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Your dyno graph proves that you are in desperate need of a more efficient converter. I mean, your power doesn't increase at all above 5300 rpm. With that humongous cam, you should see the power rising a lot after that rpm. Either invest in a lockup switch or get a better converter. Redyno the car with the converter locked and unlocked and I think your eyes will be opened.
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Your dyno graph proves that you are in desperate need of a more efficient converter. I mean, your power doesn't increase at all above 5300 rpm. With that humongous cam, you should see the power rising a lot after that rpm. Either invest in a lockup switch or get a better converter. Redyno the car with the converter locked and unlocked and I think your eyes will be opened.
The converter doesn't like to be locked. We tried to lock it with the tech 2.
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Originally Posted by 6secNaLs1
hey its jake..i juss went from the ms3 wich is a 237 242 603 609 113.. to something that is bigger on a 108 lsa..i put stock heads back on to...im goiing to the track thurs so ill let you know how this new cam works out..call me and ill give you the specs...214 738 7983
your sig shows that you ran pretty damn good with the MS3 already
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
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Your dyno graph proves that you are in desperate need of a more efficient converter. I mean, your power doesn't increase at all above 5300 rpm. With that humongous cam, you should see the power rising a lot after that rpm. Either invest in a lockup switch or get a better converter. Redyno the car with the converter locked and unlocked and I think your eyes will be opened.
Hmm you really think so huh?? I did lose 20hp switching from a TCI 3800 to the TCI 4400 stock internal.
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Old Feb 1, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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20rw? WOW!

The only problem w/ changing converters is that you want to change converters to spray as well. Thats like $600-900 x 2. Ouch.
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Originally Posted by BAIN
Did you have a stall then??
Yes, I had the Yank 3300 stall and 3.73 gears
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Damn your suspension is dialed in. Pass me some of that Zen power my way. Or the Force. Hell PB+J if that works.
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Old Feb 2, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Lady Redhawk
Yes, I had the Yank 3300 stall and 3.73 gears
What does it put down now with the Yank PT4000?
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Originally Posted by BAIN
What does it put down now with the Yank PT4000?
We are going to the dyno this Sat. to see. My changes are: ASP pulley, hand port & polished TB, Pacesetter LT Headers and SS yank 4000. Can't wait to see!
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Cool let me know. Are you going to run spray with that SS 4000 because I thought the PT series was better for N/A and SS for spray.
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