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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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all right guys im probably getting the FMS f14 cam 232/234 .598/.598 on a 112 or the TSP 233/239 .598/.595 on a 112.my car is a 2002 and it has about 36,000 miles on it.ive been hearing about maxxing injectors with these big cams lately.is this true.all at the same time im going to do the cam,dual springs,new seats,seals,pushrods and retainers(Ti),a set of pacestter LT's,duals(again...),and im wondering if theres anything else i need to do.oil pump?timing chain?steeper gears(4.11's, BTW it IS an M6)?anything else?just to let you know i AM running a 100-shot currently,and probably doing a new pump and a 150-shot in the near future.


so far this is my list:
1.cam
2.dual springs
3.titanium retainers
4.hardened seats
5.GM valve seals(or equivalent)
6.matched pushrods
7.new water pump gasket
8.new crank bolt
9.Pacestter LT's
10.True Duals


can anybody else add any other stuff?

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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Band-aids for the bleeding
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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Band-aids for the bleeding

Thats a fact!
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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oil pump and timing chain are a good idea since you're already there, but not necessary. You might need injectors with a cam and a 150 shot though.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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Band-aids for the bleeding

i heard that.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Do you have all the tools. Incuding a 7ton 3jaw puller.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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Do you have all the tools. Incuding a 7ton 3jaw puller.

hahaa.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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oil pump and timing chain are a good idea since you're already there, but not necessary. You might need injectors with a cam and a 150 shot though.

yeah when i do the 150,i have to do the racetronix PnP fuel pump and ill do injectors.im definately doing the oil pump.thanks.anything else?
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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If you want to run it through the quarter I don't think you will make it through in 4th gear with 4.11's on a 150 that you are wanting to do, unless you want to run taller tires.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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Dont know that you a gasket "kit" the only ones to worry about(with your milage) would be the water pump gaskets, all the rest should be fine, have fun with the oil pump, I only do these by dropping the motor from the bottom, its too much of a crap shoot otherwise as far as the O-ring. If you have to do the pump might as well replace the chain, although I might catch some flack for this your 02 pump is great and the stock chain hasn't caused many members awhole lot of problems. I have only done 20+ plus cam swaps so my opinion might not mean much.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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Dont know that you a gasket "kit" the only ones to worry about(with your milage) would be the water pump gaskets, all the rest should be fine, have fun with the oil pump, I only do these by dropping the motor from the bottom, its too much of a crap shoot otherwise as far as the O-ring. If you have to do the pump might as well replace the chain, although I might catch some flack for this your 02 pump is great and the stock chain hasn't caused many members awhole lot of problems. I have only done 20+ plus cam swaps so my opinion might not mean much.

i think your right bro.im just going to do the cam and the mandatory valvetrain upgrades, thanks.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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You will need a new stock crank bolt also, or an ARP crank bolt.

And how about a case of surgical gloves to keep your hands nice and clean? The lady in your life will thank me for that! Tell her to send $10 my way as a thank-you!
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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and underdrive pulley while u got it off
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 1984camaroz28
and underdrive pulley while u got it off

might as well.huh?
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You will need a new stock crank bolt also, or an ARP crank bolt.

And how about a case of surgical gloves to keep your hands nice and clean? The lady in your life will thank me for that! Tell her to send $10 my way as a thank-you!

thank you....that goes on the list.
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If you are doing the install yourself, you'll need tools like valvespring compressor, pen magnets or 5/16" rod, pulley puller, etc.
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by matts22
If you are doing the install yourself, you'll need tools like valvespring compressor, pen magnets or 5/16" rod, pulley puller, etc.

MY POPS HAS A GANG OF TOOLS AT HIS HOUSE;THATS WHERE ILL DO THE SWAP.
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Thats the same cam I'm doing in about a month. My car is also low milage at 27k. I got everything you listed to do plus a few more while I have it taken apart. I have the ASP pulley because of all the "pain in the *** install" threads I've read. I figure If I have to do it anyway, now is the time to do a crank pulley. I had a real hard time deciding on the ported oil pump and double timing chain. I finally decided to do them for three reasons.
1) It's already costing a lot to do the cam, an extra $200-$250 isn't gonna break me.
2) It's all going to be taken apart so it won't add much time to the install.
3) I don't want to have to worry about parts breaking, I think I would be paranoid.
Actually four reasons. The last one is worse case senario. If I didn't replace them and one went bad and blew my engine, I wouldn't be able to forgive myself.

Do I really think they are needed? No, but I didn't want to take any chances. Lots of people do cam swaps without them and don't have any problems. But, stock chains do brake and oil pumps do fail. Odds are very bad of it happening but now, after upgrading, I feel like they are close to impossible.

Last think, don't forget any of the tools. I needed to buy a bunch and I thought my tool set was pretty good. If you need to check what tools, go to ls1howto.com
They have a real good cam install write-up.

Good Luck,
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thank you.ill check it out.
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Originally Posted by '02SS
MY POPS HAS A GANG OF TOOLS AT HIS HOUSE;THATS WHERE ILL DO THE SWAP.
Yeah just making sure you are covered. My dad has a ton of tools too, but he doesn't have a valvespring compressor.
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