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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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Talking I'm really at a crossroads. I need technical insight.. So much for plans..

I really thought I had it all planned out and now I"m just so confused what to do. I originally was going to do all the tuning my self but I did I didn't learn it as well as I planned so I'm taking it into hte shop March 7th to get Tuned.

Here is the thing. I really had my mind set on hte LPE GT2-3 Cam. Because it gives good NA power and works great as a Turbo cam as well. Well It looks like it's going to be a lot longer then this summer till I switch over from NA to FI.

SO NOW ALL I"M rally wanting to do is get a cam and valvetrain in there that will do my 383 justice. I realy have to cut back my money spending on her for a few months. So I'm just thinking BIG CAM, Valvetrain, and Retuned. Then Keep her like that for about a year.

I really have to get caught up on my other bills and start setting aside money for preventiative maintanence on her. Like Tranny Rebuild and such..

ON THAT NOTE WHAT CAM VALVETRAIN SETUP DO YOU SUGGEST WITH my 383 / STOCK HEAD SETUP!?

I really wanna stay under 5-6 on cam and valvetrain parts. So al together installed and tuned I spend a total of less then 1500.

After that I'll be happy with her for awhile so I can focus on other problems.

She's really dumping fuel so I figured I woul djust have them install the cam and tune her all at once...

She currently has LS6 Springs, titanium retainers, comp cam pushrods, and a LS6 GEN III HOTCAM...

I don't care how mean she sounds. I love that ****. She already sounds like a monster with the LT's and 3" XPipe... and the hot cam is a baby cam compared to what some of you guys are running..
How about some suggestions!!!
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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even with a big cam the stock heads are gonna be a huge restriction on a 383. and are you still running the ls1 intake?
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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even with a big cam the stock heads are gonna be a huge restriction on a 383. and are you still running the ls1 intake?
Yeah bro. When I can get enough money for heads I plan on going with the LSX and 90mm. So I'm holding off. I"m planning on going with big chambered heads to drop the crompresion so I"m trying to do those last.

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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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I was looking at youre cam chart JRP.
It looks like futral has some serious cams...
I realize my heads will be a big restriction but I'd rather put a big cam in it now and upgrade the heads later withour having to change the cam again.
Is the Thundr Racing's TReX a Bad idea?
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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I have to be honest, the T-rex gets a bad rap sometimes b/c of it's size. I've posted a few times lately about the T-rex and how drivable I think it is. It does lope hard at idle (a plus for me), and it does buck at low rpm ~1800 or so and under, but it seriously is a very very streetable cam in my opinion. Everyone who has ridden in my car has said the same thing and how surprised they are at the drivability and tameness. Also, the brakes work great and the car has never stalled on me once. ALL this is on a stock tune with bumped up idle speed, with 3.42's. The tune is coming once the new clutch is in and the weather breaks here.

My wife drove this thing to the bodyshop for me when I was out of town and had no problems. Besides the "noise and shaking" at idle, she said it was fine to drive. BTW, she's not AT ALL into the car thing, she hates it. She has zero experience driving semi-fast cars.

If you think the T-rex is a gamble and might be too big for what you want, I'd try the G5X3. It seems to be making some great power and be very streetable as well. If that still seems like too much cam, the G5X2 would be my next choice.

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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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IMO keep the cam you've got and go get it tuned.
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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Thumbs up cam choice

Comp. Cams 224/224 581-581 @114 works great with or without heads.

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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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I reallly want a cam that will do the 383 justice and then when I swap the heads down the road the cam will be like wow and really wake up. Is it try the G5X cam's are breaking components? I love Sickly sounding cammed cars. Maybe I should give thunder a call.
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the never ending question. good grief.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bickelfirebird
the never ending question. good grief.
I don't think I've ever seen you say anything positive yet that funny car has cluttered many a thread.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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With a 383 you have to remember this. The larger the motor the more tame it's going to act with a larger cam. IE a 224 in a 4.8 is gonna act huge compared to what a 224 is gonna act like in a 5.7 Keep this in mind. We all have heard good things about just about every cam out there. You just have to make a educated decision by talking to several vendors and laying out your goals and go from there. There are alot of baby cams out there that can put a hurt on the bigger cam cars on the street. 90% of it is in the setup of the car and the tune, remember that.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by D3IMOS
I don't think I've ever seen you say anything positive yet that funny car has cluttered many a thread.
DAAAAAMN. Well said D3IMOS, but I have seen Bickel give some good advice. He just is a little pessimistic sometimes. Some of us get that way from time to time w/topics that never die. Doing some research would give you alot of the answers you would need on this topic. There have been Eleventy Billion posts close to or exactly like yours so far, the answers are out there.

Moving on, ignore those folks that say keep the cam you have or get the 224. They either didn't realize you have a 383 stroker or don't know at all what they're talking about. I'd look at least at the 23x range and up, the Trex would work well for your motor while not being as extreme of a cam as it is for us stock cubed folks. You could also call Allan @ Futral and talk to him about gettin a custom grinded that could work with your setup. Haven't heard of anyone not like a cam that they got custom ground from him. I always think the best route for a stroker is a custom grind, b/c most of the shelf cams are for stock cubes. Thats JMHO tho.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by cyphur_traq
DAAAAAMN. Well said D3IMOS, but I have seen Bickel give some good advice. He just is a little pessimistic sometimes. Some of us get that way from time to time w/topics that never die. Doing some research would give you alot of the answers you would need on this topic. There have been Eleventy Billion posts close to or exactly like yours so far, the answers are out there.

Moving on, ignore those folks that say keep the cam you have or get the 224. They either didn't realize you have a 383 stroker or don't know at all what they're talking about. I'd look at least at the 23x range and up, the Trex would work well for your motor while not being as extreme of a cam as it is for us stock cubed folks. You could also call Allan @ Futral and talk to him about gettin a custom grinded that could work with your setup. Haven't heard of anyone not like a cam that they got custom ground from him. I always think the best route for a stroker is a custom grind, b/c most of the shelf cams are for stock cubes. Thats JMHO tho.
Sounds like an excellent Idea. I'll give him a call on monday the week after I get back from my business trip. Depending on what he says though I might just end up with a trex. We'll see. I see Futral has a lot of good cams.
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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IMO, with a 383 I'd save the money and put it towards getting a 90mm LSX intake and some nice heads...

That said, with that kind of engine I'd go with one of the bigger Futral cams. Give Alan a call and see what he recommends...
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Old Feb 19, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tranzor_Z28
IMO, with a 383 I'd save the money and put it towards getting a 90mm LSX intake and some nice heads...

That said, with that kind of engine I'd go with one of the bigger Futral cams. Give Alan a call and see what he recommends...
I guess you didn't read my initial post. I'm trying to hold off on spending any money for about a year. I just wanna change the cam to a Powerful NA cam and tune it for now.

Heads will be last because they will drop my compression significantly since this car will ultimately be a FI car.. For now I'm just gonna do the cam and hold off ..

Later on I'll do FI Based H/C Package and throw the turbo on it.
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