Failed CA smog check
02-27-2005, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bombguy99z28
His car is in the system as a gross poluter. Those friendly smog shops won't be as friendly when that vin pops up in their computer, and he will be 'test-only' for the rest of that cars life.
True.........
02-28-2005, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jesserose17
I've just bought '98 Camaro Z28. According to previous owner, it has been modified with long tube headers, no cats, off road y-pipe, LS1 Hot cam (218/227 .525"/.525" 112 LSA) with LS6 valve springs, ported heads to match Hot cam specs. It passed Texas inspection (where it originally came from).
At RPM 800, HC measured 2000 PPM where 100 PPM is the maximum in CA; for CO, it measured 2.18 % where 1.00 % is max in CA.
At RPM 2438, HC measured 214 PPM where 130 PPM is the max; for CO, it measured 0.49 % where 1.00 % is the max.
Failed visual inspection due to no cats. It has been labeled as Gross Polluter.
So, I have no choice but to install factory catalytic converters and probably shorty headers w/ CARB#'s.
The question is: Should I also replace the cam to something tamer? Or would the Cats alone help pass the smog check?
I would appreciate any tips!
At RPM 800, HC measured 2000 PPM where 100 PPM is the maximum in CA; for CO, it measured 2.18 % where 1.00 % is max in CA.
At RPM 2438, HC measured 214 PPM where 130 PPM is the max; for CO, it measured 0.49 % where 1.00 % is the max.
Failed visual inspection due to no cats. It has been labeled as Gross Polluter.
So, I have no choice but to install factory catalytic converters and probably shorty headers w/ CARB#'s.
The question is: Should I also replace the cam to something tamer? Or would the Cats alone help pass the smog check?
I would appreciate any tips!
03-01-2005, 04:56 PM
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Wow, sorry to hear about your luck man. I had my car smogged this last tuesday, and installed a hot cam on Friday. The smog shop I went to in Visalia, California said I would pass visual with long tubes as long as I had cats, and other provisions functional, and would pass tailpipe as long as I had a good tune.
03-01-2005, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GTO_Newbie
The term would be ignorant, not stupid.
While the owner may be ignorant, it could be that he's just used to living life as a free man. I'm just glad they only inspected the engine and exhaust and didn't go in the car and find his Texas pea shooter (AKA 44mag)
03-01-2005, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ssheets
You've got to understand that Texas is still a sovereign state...unlike the socialist state of Kaliphorneeah
While the owner may be ignorant, it could be that he's just used to living life as a free man. I'm just glad they only inspected the engine and exhaust and didn't go in the car and find his Texas pea shooter (AKA 44mag)
While the owner may be ignorant, it could be that he's just used to living life as a free man. I'm just glad they only inspected the engine and exhaust and didn't go in the car and find his Texas pea shooter (AKA 44mag)
If you guys would read the post, you would see that he lives in Cali and BOUGHT the car in Texas and brought it back to where he lives, CA.
03-01-2005, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 2c5s
If you guys would read the post, you would see that he lives in Cali and BOUGHT the car in Texas and brought it back to where he lives, CA.
03-01-2005, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
that right there is why i never want to go back to cali.... and i grew up there..... 18 yrs....... i love Texas no smog here......... when i move again it will be somewhere with no smog checks..... Mine will never pass..........
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03-02-2005, 03:20 AM
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This thread is embarrassing. What a f’d up way to welcome a new f-body owner to the community.
Jesse (if your still with us), ignore the as$hole remarks above. You’ve got a bitchin’ car that needs a little work to make it legal in California. Whereas most people buy stock cars and modify for more HP, you need to demod and pass smog. Big f’n deal considering that you can sell the performance parts if you take them off.
So what if he has to go to a “check only” shop. I have taken my last 5 cars to the local “check only” shop for a total of 8 certificates or pre-tests. There is NO difference in the test performed. The ONLY difference is that the shop cannot fix anything on the car. The idea is to reduce the chances of a smog check shop cheating. In fact, the shop I go to does not notice any of the visual failures on my f-body.
CO2 emissions are measured at idle (800rpm) in order to baseline the car. In a way it is a test ‘cause if the emissions are too low, then a calibration factor is added making it harder to pass the 15 and 25 MPH tests.
The most likely way to pass is new cam, cats, tune. I suggest OEM catalytic converters as they work better then aftermarket cats. 224/224 114LBA or better. Longtube headers will probably pass sniffer test and possible visual. Pm/email me for details.
Jesse (if your still with us), ignore the as$hole remarks above. You’ve got a bitchin’ car that needs a little work to make it legal in California. Whereas most people buy stock cars and modify for more HP, you need to demod and pass smog. Big f’n deal considering that you can sell the performance parts if you take them off.
So what if he has to go to a “check only” shop. I have taken my last 5 cars to the local “check only” shop for a total of 8 certificates or pre-tests. There is NO difference in the test performed. The ONLY difference is that the shop cannot fix anything on the car. The idea is to reduce the chances of a smog check shop cheating. In fact, the shop I go to does not notice any of the visual failures on my f-body.
CO2 emissions are measured at idle (800rpm) in order to baseline the car. In a way it is a test ‘cause if the emissions are too low, then a calibration factor is added making it harder to pass the 15 and 25 MPH tests.
The most likely way to pass is new cam, cats, tune. I suggest OEM catalytic converters as they work better then aftermarket cats. 224/224 114LBA or better. Longtube headers will probably pass sniffer test and possible visual. Pm/email me for details.
03-02-2005, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 1ScrudeDude
Are there smog checks in Nevada?
I wanna move there...
I wanna move there...
I'm 50 miles South of Reno and in a different county.
I.E. Big cam. long tubes and ORPS
03-02-2005, 03:29 PM
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Now that you have been black listed by the socialist there's no amount of tuning that I can suggest to pass the test. The best thing I can suggest at this point is to do the !california mod and move to tx, or Mo, its easy to pass with a little tuning.
To those you of you who decided to trash talk him for going with no cats, many of us do that every day where OBDII testing is avaliable
To those you of you who decided to trash talk him for going with no cats, many of us do that every day where OBDII testing is avaliable
03-02-2005, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SmokingWS6
Now that you have been black listed by the socialist there's no amount of tuning that I can suggest to pass the test. The best thing I can suggest at this point is to do the !california mod and move to tx, or Mo, its easy to pass with a little tuning.
