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03-23-2005, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SMOKIN01TA
um i make 120hp and 250tq at 2500 where we started the dyno and im making 442 @ 6800 on hp and still in the 430's at 7200 where it falls off so thunder could say the power band is 2500-7200 if they wanted to. without a dyno curve from your car this argument is useless. 
Agreed. Get your **** together, then come talk to us.
03-24-2005, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jrp
i'd HOPE you would make 80 ft-lbs of TORQUE at 2k rpm...
you go on ahead and make your "80ft-lbs of tq at 2k rpm" while the rest of us will have ~250ft-lbs @ 2k rpm and 300ft-lbs at 3k rpm
i think your confused, pick up this discussion when you have the dyno to prove your point. w/o any data your not aiding your cause.
you go on ahead and make your "80ft-lbs of tq at 2k rpm" while the rest of us will have ~250ft-lbs @ 2k rpm and 300ft-lbs at 3k rpm
i think your confused, pick up this discussion when you have the dyno to prove your point. w/o any data your not aiding your cause.
03-24-2005, 07:25 PM
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This cam you have isn't a one off design. It won't be a miracal cam either. It has the same specs as many other cams out there, but on a 110 LSA. Your 232 duration cam will not pull to 7k either. It'll peak around 6400 and hold till about 67-6800 just like all the others.
03-24-2005, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by soundengineer
and really...it doesnt matter what your dyno #'s are....
"A DYNO DOESNT GO DOWN THE TRACK"
take it to the track.....find a car the exact same as your except for the cam....
compare time slips.....
"A DYNO DOESNT GO DOWN THE TRACK"
take it to the track.....find a car the exact same as your except for the cam....
compare time slips.....
Dyno #'s mean nothing.Most of my track cars lose 20-30 "dyno"hp to run there fastest times 
So far,not 1 big Cam has impressed me yet at the track.Most of the cars up here weigh in at 3550+lbs and the fastest cars run smaller than 230 Cams.
03-24-2005, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Very true Dyno #'s mean nothing.Most of my track cars lose 20-30 "dyno"hp to run there fastest times
So far,not 1 big Cam has impressed me yet at the track.Most of the cars up here weigh in at 3550+lbs and the fastest cars run smaller than 230 Cams.
Dyno #'s mean nothing.Most of my track cars lose 20-30 "dyno"hp to run there fastest times So far,not 1 big Cam has impressed me yet at the track.Most of the cars up here weigh in at 3550+lbs and the fastest cars run smaller than 230 Cams.
a t-rex on 3.42's sucks......but put it on 4.56's or higher.....now thats the way to go
03-26-2005, 11:29 AM
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I got my car dynoed but I don't have a scanner yet to post my numbers but I made 395 rwhp and 440 torque not to bad considering stock 2k intake, stock throttle body and stock pulley and no tuning done! I'm happy with my numbers and when I get a pulley and intake, heads and tuning will see what happens!
03-26-2005, 11:41 AM
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Those seem like very good numbers.
What RPM did you manage to peak for HP?
Just read through most of this thread...keep in mind, that peak numbers don't
really mean much.
It's the average power over a range of RPM that will win a race. IF the car
is geared to use that window effectively, and stay within that best average
range of power, it will likely do better on the drag strip.
Torque is a force. Horesepower is a measurement. Don't confuse the two.
You want the most torque at any RPM. HP tells you the amount of work the
engine is doing over time.
IE:
300 ft./lbs. of torque @ 2500 RPM = 142.8 HP
250 ft./lbs. of torque @ 5500 RPM = 261.8 HP
Using the HP numbers, you would want to be at 5500 RPM to achieve more
power even though the torque is lower at that RPM.
What RPM did you manage to peak for HP?
Just read through most of this thread...keep in mind, that peak numbers don't
really mean much.
It's the average power over a range of RPM that will win a race. IF the car
is geared to use that window effectively, and stay within that best average
range of power, it will likely do better on the drag strip.
Torque is a force. Horesepower is a measurement. Don't confuse the two.
You want the most torque at any RPM. HP tells you the amount of work the
engine is doing over time.
IE:
300 ft./lbs. of torque @ 2500 RPM = 142.8 HP
250 ft./lbs. of torque @ 5500 RPM = 261.8 HP
Using the HP numbers, you would want to be at 5500 RPM to achieve more
power even though the torque is lower at that RPM.
03-26-2005, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bobby1
I got my car dynoed but I don't have a scanner yet to post my numbers but I made 395 rwhp and 440 torque not to bad considering stock 2k intake, stock throttle body and stock pulley and no tuning done! I'm happy with my numbers and when I get a pulley and intake, heads and tuning will see what happens!
03-26-2005, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bobby1
I got my car dynoed but I don't have a scanner yet to post my numbers but I made 395 rwhp and 440 torque not to bad considering stock 2k intake, stock throttle body and stock pulley and no tuning done! I'm happy with my numbers and when I get a pulley and intake, heads and tuning will see what happens!
Let me be the first...........BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!
03-26-2005, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bobby1
I got my car dynoed but I don't have a scanner yet to post my numbers but I made 395 rwhp and 440 torque not to bad considering stock 2k intake, stock throttle body and stock pulley and no tuning done! I'm happy with my numbers and when I get a pulley and intake, heads and tuning will see what happens!
03-26-2005, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WOT
Are those number backwards??? maybe 440 horse and 395 torque???
03-26-2005, 06:18 PM
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80lbs of torque at 2k rpms? If that's the case, that's really weak, dude... I have a 231/237 cam, and it is not a torquey cam at all, and it's making 295lbs of torque at 2.5k rpms where my dyno starts, and 140rwhp at that point. At 3k rpms, it's making 310lbs of torque, and 170rwhp.
03-26-2005, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Exactly what mods have you done to achieve these numbers?
03-26-2005, 06:21 PM
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HAHA 440RWTQ? hahaha
thats the funniest **** I've heard.
I'll agree with the bullshit statements on that one.
Or maybe you are saying 395rwhp untuned, and 440FWTQ. Thats all I can think of..
Even backwards 440rwhp395/rwtq isnt anywhere near believeable considering the mods...
Post the graph, and I'll post my F14 graph with Tuning, TB (mildly ported) stock pulley, etc.
thats the funniest **** I've heard.
I'll agree with the bullshit statements on that one.
Or maybe you are saying 395rwhp untuned, and 440FWTQ. Thats all I can think of..
Even backwards 440rwhp395/rwtq isnt anywhere near believeable considering the mods...
Post the graph, and I'll post my F14 graph with Tuning, TB (mildly ported) stock pulley, etc.
03-26-2005, 06:22 PM
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[QUOTE=bobby1]Mti lid, 80 mm mass airflow meter delete of ac belt and compressor. pacesetter headers and hooker y pipe hypertech tunning and 160 thermostat and borla exhaust.and cats deleted!