Best performance cam for a daily driver
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Staging Lane
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Best performance cam for a daily driver What would you guys recommend for the best performance daily driver cam? Im going to be getting pacesetter LTs+ORY, torque converter/cooler/shift kit, and a cam put in all the same time and tune with HPTuners.
TIA
TIA
most folks would say a TR224 cam or a TSP225...there's quite a few to choose from but ud prolly hear most folks say get a 224 cam on a 114lsa. with all the right bolt-ons like lid, ls6 intake, ud pulley, ported TB, exhaust like ur getting etc etc ud hit 375rwhp locked with a really good dyno tune w/ ur hp tuners and still have excellent street manners
Stick w/ the stock MAF though, u can de-screen it but dont get an aftermarket one or ported maf ends as they will make it harder to tune.
Stick w/ the stock MAF though, u can de-screen it but dont get an aftermarket one or ported maf ends as they will make it harder to tune.
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I would go with something from Futral. Their cams are well known for having great drivability, great power and really good idle quality. Call Alan at Futral and he can suggest a cam for your needs. If you want maximum performance with good drivability the F13 cam would probably be just what you're looking for.
Originally Posted by LS1Maniac
I would go with something from Futral. Their cams are well known for having great drivability, great power and really good idle quality. Call Alan at Futral and he can suggest a cam for your needs. If you want maximum performance with good drivability the F13 cam would probably be just what you're looking for.
Speed inc has some nice ones too. Shoot them a phone call
Originally Posted by titaniumSS
So a F13 would be good for a semi-daily driver? I sometimes drive more on somedays then others, how much do they run?
http://www.futralmotorsports.com/fms....asp?pf=1&pg=5
Originally Posted by titaniumSS
So a F13 would be good for a semi-daily driver? I sometimes drive more on somedays then others, how much do they run?
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I have a 220/216 custom, I was very depressed when i got back my final dyno numbers.
I only gained like 20 HP at the top end, but after looking at it I gained about 35-45 torque from about 2K-4K. I believe better tuning will increase my numbers better, but i will not state the company that only dyno tuned my car. It has very good street manners and good low end torque, which is what i wanted when i spoke with the cam designer. Also, another tuning issue, it idles at ~875 rpm, which i believe that it could be much lower if the people who tuned it really cared, b/c all they did was bump up my rpm and worked on air/fuel ratios.
Also, IMO where you will be driving the car will alter your opinion on a daily driver. For instance, I would prefer to have a smaller cam in lots of stop-n-go driving or i could afford to use a larger cam in a town that didnt have much traffic. It all depends on the driving style.
Final words: as everyone else has stated i would go with a 224 or 225 setup. Probably would be wise to call futral and speak to alan about what you want as well, he may be able to whip up something nice for you. Also, if you dont plan on changing anything else on your car after you get done with this, I would suggest talking to a custom cam designer.
I only gained like 20 HP at the top end, but after looking at it I gained about 35-45 torque from about 2K-4K. I believe better tuning will increase my numbers better, but i will not state the company that only dyno tuned my car. It has very good street manners and good low end torque, which is what i wanted when i spoke with the cam designer. Also, another tuning issue, it idles at ~875 rpm, which i believe that it could be much lower if the people who tuned it really cared, b/c all they did was bump up my rpm and worked on air/fuel ratios.
Also, IMO where you will be driving the car will alter your opinion on a daily driver. For instance, I would prefer to have a smaller cam in lots of stop-n-go driving or i could afford to use a larger cam in a town that didnt have much traffic. It all depends on the driving style.
Final words: as everyone else has stated i would go with a 224 or 225 setup. Probably would be wise to call futral and speak to alan about what you want as well, he may be able to whip up something nice for you. Also, if you dont plan on changing anything else on your car after you get done with this, I would suggest talking to a custom cam designer.
FWIW, I'm going with the TSP 225 when I get the car paid off. I've been poking around the forums lately and asking guys on other boards what they think, and the general consensus seems to be that it's an awesome cam in a daily driver.
Just my .02
Just my .02
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Ok it looks like F13 is for me, would you recommend the 112 or 114?
Also, the other things listed on Futral's website, do I need them for the install or are they a good bang for the buck for performance?
"FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp 26918 Springs, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $249.00
FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp Titanium Retainers to Comp 26918 Spring Package (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $155.00
FM2-Dual Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Manley Dual Drop In Springs, Manley Titanium Retainers, Manley Seats, Intake/Exhaust Valve Stem Seals, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $399.00
FM2-Dual Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade-Add Precision Race Components Dual Valve Spring Kit (Includes dual springs rated to .650 lift, titanium retainers, seats, intake & exhaust seals), FMS 7.400" Chromemoly Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection"
Also, the other things listed on Futral's website, do I need them for the install or are they a good bang for the buck for performance?
"FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp 26918 Springs, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $249.00
FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp Titanium Retainers to Comp 26918 Spring Package (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $155.00
FM2-Dual Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Manley Dual Drop In Springs, Manley Titanium Retainers, Manley Seats, Intake/Exhaust Valve Stem Seals, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $399.00
FM2-Dual Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade-Add Precision Race Components Dual Valve Spring Kit (Includes dual springs rated to .650 lift, titanium retainers, seats, intake & exhaust seals), FMS 7.400" Chromemoly Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection"
I've got the X1 from MTI, had it in my daily driver for over a year and a half, makes good power, very liveable. Its 230/224 .591/.571/112.
See numbers below, that's without most bolt-ons.
See numbers below, that's without most bolt-ons.
Originally Posted by EverclearZ
I've got the X1 from MTI, had it in my daily driver for over a year and a half, makes good power, very liveable. Its 230/224 .591/.571/112.
See numbers below, that's without most bolt-ons.
See numbers below, that's without most bolt-ons.
actually its 230/227 .591/.571 112+4
I had it in my old car for 3 years as a daily driver....made 393RWHP and 382RWTQ....drove it in all weather conditions including heavy snow(though it helped that I had real snow tires on)
no problems at all with it for a daily driver
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Originally Posted by Hayrab
Ok it looks like F13 is for me, would you recommend the 112 or 114?
Also, the other things listed on Futral's website, do I need them for the install or are they a good bang for the buck for performance?
"FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp 26918 Springs, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $249.00
FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp Titanium Retainers to Comp 26918 Spring Package (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $155.00
FM2-Dual Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Manley Dual Drop In Springs, Manley Titanium Retainers, Manley Seats, Intake/Exhaust Valve Stem Seals, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $399.00
FM2-Dual Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade-Add Precision Race Components Dual Valve Spring Kit (Includes dual springs rated to .650 lift, titanium retainers, seats, intake & exhaust seals), FMS 7.400" Chromemoly Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection"
Also, the other things listed on Futral's website, do I need them for the install or are they a good bang for the buck for performance?
"FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp 26918 Springs, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $249.00
FM1-Single Spring Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Comp Titanium Retainers to Comp 26918 Spring Package (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $155.00
FM2-Dual Upgrade-1 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade - Add Manley Dual Drop In Springs, Manley Titanium Retainers, Manley Seats, Intake/Exhaust Valve Stem Seals, FMS Hardened Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection (This is an upgrade only when purchasing a camshaft) $399.00
FM2-Dual Upgrade-2 Futral Motorsports Cam Package Upgrade-Add Precision Race Components Dual Valve Spring Kit (Includes dual springs rated to .650 lift, titanium retainers, seats, intake & exhaust seals), FMS 7.400" Chromemoly Pushrods to FMS Cam Selection"
. If you call Alan I'm sure he can tell you everything you need.
Originally Posted by soundengineer
actually its 230/227 .591/.571 112+4
I had it in my old car for 3 years as a daily driver....made 393RWHP and 382RWTQ....drove it in all weather conditions including heavy snow(though it helped that I had real snow tires on)
no problems at all with it for a daily driver
I had it in my old car for 3 years as a daily driver....made 393RWHP and 382RWTQ....drove it in all weather conditions including heavy snow(though it helped that I had real snow tires on)
no problems at all with it for a daily driver
So what happened to your X1 setup? I noticed you're back to basically stock.
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Call Futral and buy the cam he recommends.
Originally Posted by Hayrab
What would you guys recommend for the best performance daily driver cam? Im going to be getting pacesetter LTs+ORY, torque converter/cooler/shift kit, and a cam put in all the same time and tune with HPTuners.
TIA
TIA
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i have MTIs G1 cam n my car. its just a couple numbers off and my car runs very good. if u want HP numbers the other cams r prob good. my car makes 325 hp to ground and runs 12.2s with cam and bolt ons. and i only make 305tq.
but i also get 20 mpg and have no drivability issues
but i also get 20 mpg and have no drivability issues
Originally Posted by EverclearZ
Ah yes, got to dust the cobwebs off my memory...
So what happened to your X1 setup? I noticed you're back to basically stock.
So what happened to your X1 setup? I noticed you're back to basically stock.
I sold my Z28 to a buddy on a regional F-body board....he hasnt touched the engine....but he did a bunch to the suspension from what I understand...and I have been told that he needs to learn how to drive it
I bought a 2000 SS....
and I just purchased some headers and duals and hptuners....all the other goodies to come shortly
a cam is being considered awhile...
and I'm leaning towards a 224ish cam for this car
maybe a tr224 or tsp224R or tsp225 or fm-2...you get the idea
I'm leaning towards these for spring reasons.... I'm planning on dual springs(I dont know why anybody would even consider singles when doing a cam other than the ls6 cam...you break a spring...you break a motor basically...and with duals...you break a spring...you have time to shut it down...and replace the spring before you kill the motor or any other parts)
and the relatively small size of cam shold make my duals last for 30k+ miles...meaning less often spring changes....
also somewhere down the road...a 224ish cam falls in line of I want to do some spray juice...doubt I will...but you never know
