MS3 vs 224/228
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Well, I put the 224/228 in instead of putting my stock cam back in
No other change but the cam, same tune and only 40 miles after cam swap I went to the track.
224/228
1.650 7.518 92.26 11.853 113.07
1.647 7.503 92.59 11.813 113.67
1.713 7.610 92.44 11.946 113.11
MS3
1.652 11.652 @ 114.18
1.629 11.664 @ 114.24
1.619 11.628 @ 114.53
Once I get a better tune to bring the shift points down from 6900 rpms, I'll try again
Atleast the car start right up, idles, and no surging now
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No other change but the cam, same tune and only 40 miles after cam swap I went to the track.
224/228
1.650 7.518 92.26 11.853 113.07
1.647 7.503 92.59 11.813 113.67
1.713 7.610 92.44 11.946 113.11
MS3
1.652 11.652 @ 114.18
1.629 11.664 @ 114.24
1.619 11.628 @ 114.53
Once I get a better tune to bring the shift points down from 6900 rpms, I'll try again
Atleast the car start right up, idles, and no surging now
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Where does the MS3 fit in????
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I agree with both. Bigger is not always better. But bigger requires different stuff to be better. I think I just confused myself by saying this ![Bang Head](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_banghead.gif)
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For one thing, as of now the MS3 was nearly 0.2 quicker, and based on his sig he is only running a 3500 stall converter and stock gears. Change that to a 4000 or so stall speed and 3.73's, then compare the 224/228 to the MS3. I'll bet the MS3 pulls away by even more at that point.
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I think it is all in the combo. I think the 3500 stall was to small for the magic stick to begin with. If he had a 4000 stall with the magic stick I think the results would be much different.
BTW I have a G5X-3 with a PT4000 stall and I think it is much to small. I think set up for all motor I would need a 4600-4800 stall.
BTW I have a G5X-3 with a PT4000 stall and I think it is much to small. I think set up for all motor I would need a 4600-4800 stall.
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Originally Posted by LS1 BU
I think it is all in the combo. I think the 3500 stall was to small for the magic stick to begin with. If he had a 4000 stall with the magic stick I think the results would be much different.
Flash forward, I recently had an SLP underdrive pulley and LS6 intake manifold installed, along with restalling the converter to 4000. Made 385rwhp/360rwtq (also unlocked, SAE). You can't tell me that an LS6 intake manifold is normally worth ~32 rwhp, and that is what you get after adding roughly 10rwhp for the pulley. Not to mention the fact that the looser converter might be eating more power.
When I get back to the track, hopefully either this wed or friday, I'll bet I pick up a solid 0.5 that I would have already had if the cam was supported from the beginning.
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Originally Posted by nuzee
Your "stock cam" sure loped nice, LOL!! Seriously, your previous 224 cam sounded lopier. This one has a very nice chop to it. Congrats on the times!
Thanks, I need to put my FTRA back on and change the shift points, might be down this Wednesday
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